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A LOT OF RUCKUS THAT TIME. YOU. ME. WE'LL CALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER. MIKE'S GOING TO TAKE ROLL CALL. HEY, EDDIE. HERE, NEWTON HERE. JULIAN. HERE, WATERMAN. HERE. KOENIG. DIMAGGIO HERE. WHITE HERE. RUUD HERE, HERE. IRVIN HERE. OKAY.

[a. 2026-2605 – SHERIFF DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE: R. MACIOL RE:     APPROVAL OF A TEMPLATE FOR SPECIAL DETAIL SERVICES TO BE USED BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH IT’S SHERIFF’S OFFICE, AND VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND OTHER ENTITIES DURING 2026 AND 2027]

FIRST UP IS DOCKET 2026 2605 FOR THE SHERIFF. I DON'T KNOW IF MISTER LISI IS GOING TO REPRESENT THE SHERIFF FOR THIS ONE. YES, I AM ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANT TO STEP UP TO THE MIC IN CASE THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS? SURE. THIS IS AN APPROVAL OF A TEMPLATE FOR SPECIAL, DETAILED SERVICES TO BE USED BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND OTHER ENTITIES DURING 20 2026 AND 2027. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S SURE IT'S THE OVERTIME RATE THAT WE CHARGE WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO HIRE A DEPUTY FOR AN EVENT, WHETHER IT'S FOR A DANCE, WHETHER IT'S FOR A OUTSIDE ACTIVITY, THEY WANT A DEPUTY FOR TRAFFIC, WHATEVER. THAT'S THE RATE THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE UP UP CHARGE IN THE CONTRACT BASED ON THE NEW CONTRACT. AND THAT INCLUDES THEM WITH A THEY HAVE A PATROL CAR AND THEY HAVE THE DEPUTY, AND WE PAY THE DEPUTY OVERTIME. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET? THIS WOULD INCLUDE GAMES TO IF THEY HIRED THE SHERIFF, WHATEVER THEY WANTED. DEPUTY FOR, THEY WOULD PAY THIS RATE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WOULD BE NONE. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED? DOCKET PASSES.

[b. 2026-3064 – EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE: F. MANFREDO RE:     APPROVAL OF TWO GRANT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND ESTABLISHMENT OF CAPITAL PROJECT H EMG 160 EMERGENCY SERVICES – 2023 & 2024 HAZMAT GRANTS  ]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS DOCKET 2026 3064 FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. THIS IS AN APPROVAL OF TWO GRANT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND NEW YORK STATE THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES AND ESTABLISHMENT OF CAPITAL PROJECT HEMG160, EMERGENCY SERVICES 2023 AND 2024 HAZMAT GRANTS GRANT IS HERE TO EXPLAIN THIS DOCKET AND ANSWER ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS. YEAH, IT'S 23 AND 24 HAZMAT GRANTS FROM NEW YORK STATE. IT GOES TO SUPPORT HAZMAT FOR ITS FIRE DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET? YES.

MR. DIMAGGIO. YEAH. ALL THIS HAS MADE EQUIPMENT DOES THIS JUST FOR THE COUNTY PEOPLE OR UTICA, ROME. DO THEY GET THE WE DO WE SHARE THIS. SO SO THERE'S TWO HAZMAT TEAMS IN THE COUNTY, UTICA AND ROME. AND THEY'RE COMBINED. THEY USE THE VAST MAJORITY OF OF THE MONEY THEY PROVIDE HAZMAT SERVICE TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE BEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED. DOCKET PASSES. NEXT UP IS 2026

[c. 2026-3527 – EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE: F. MANFREDO RE:     APPROVAL OF A SECOND FIVE-YEAR RENEWAL TO LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND WILLIAM STEPHAN AND AUDREY STEPHAN, AS TRUSTEES OF THE WHS LIVING TRUST AND THE AJS LIVING TRUST]

3527. AN APPROVAL OF A SECOND FIVE YEAR RENEWAL TO A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND WILLIAM STEFFEN AND AUDREY STEFFEN AS TRUSTEES OF THE LIVING W H. S LIVING TRUST AND THE A. S LIVING TRUST. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THIS? IT'S JUST A LEASE WHERE OUR TOWER SITS FOR ONE OF OUR RADIO COMMUNICATIONS TOWERS.

JUST AT LEAST AT THE TOWER SITS ON. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER. DO WE HAVE ANY. YES. GO AHEAD. THE ORIGINAL COST FOR THIS WAS 5000. RENT WAS 5000. YEAH, 2% AND 6597. AND THE FIFTH YEAR. FIFTH YEAR 65, 97, 39. IS THERE A REASON FOR THE INCREASE? IT'S A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT. IT GOES UP 2% SINCE SINCE THE ORIGINAL. OKAY, NOW WE'RE IN YEAR. SO IT STARTED IN 16. YEAH. YEAH. SO WE'RE IN THE 11TH YEAR, 2% A YEAR. SO EVERY YEAR. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS GUYS. ROLL MAN. YOU GOTTA GET WOULD BE NONE. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE. OPPOSED.

THAT PASSES. FRAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. FOR YOU AND KEVIN. LAST MONTH, WE VOTED ON A NEW POSITION TO CREATE A NEW POSITION FOR THE EMS. I DIDN'T CREATE A NEW POSITION. I ELIMINATED ONE AND TRANSFERRED THE NAME TO EMS COORDINATOR. AND THAT WAS POSTED THE FOLLOWING MONDAY. RIGHT? IT WAS POSTED. YES. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, BUT YES, IT WAS POSTED. I JUST I GUESS I WAS JUST CONFUSED. IT SOUNDED LIKE WE WERE JUST CREATING IT. WE WEREN'T READY TO HIRE ANYBODY YET. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A PART TIME

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COORDINATOR. AND I THINK I EXPLAINED, LIKE WITH THE NEW LAWS IN NEW YORK STATE, THE OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH IT. SO INSTEAD OF CREATING ANY NEW POSITIONS, WE RECLASSIFIED A POSITION. AND WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO SOMETHING SOONER THAN LATER TO FILL THIS TO TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE STATE. AND WHAT'S THAT POSITION GOING TO PAY? DO WE KNOW THE SAILOR? IT'S LIKE 89,000. NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK IT WAS 81,000. YEAH YEAH YEAH. 81 RIGHT. 81,000. CHAIRMAN. IF THEY WERE GETTING A CAR AND IS THAT POSITION GOING TO GET A TAKE HOME CAR? I WOULD ASSUME SO. OKAY. WHAT'S THAT. COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION LAST MONTH AND I WAS TOLD IT'S ONLY CREATING THE POSITION. WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS ONLY CREATED THE POSITION. BUT FOR FOUR DAYS WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE IS HOISTING COUNTY EMS PLAN, IT ONLY REALLY. STEP ONE WAS ITS OWNERS REQUIREMENT. WE GOT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THEY HAD TO GET INVOLVED WITH AND ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS BY THE END OF THE YEAR. DECEMBER 16TH IS DUE BY. THIS WHOLE POINT IS. THIS IS MANDATED MANDATED MANDATE. AND WE TOLD THEM NO NEW POSITION. SO THEY HAVE TO. GO AHEAD. SO KEVIN, IS THIS GOING TO BE ALMOST LIKE LIKE THE JAIL WHERE THEY THEY DICTATE DOJ DICTATES YOU HAVE THIS MANY POSITIONS. IS THIS THE SAME THING HAPPENING TO US IN EMS? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? WELL, EMS HAS BEEN STRESSED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WITH AMBULANCES OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION DOWN HERE, IT SEEMS LIKE MONDAYS, THE STATE IS MOVING AT A SNAIL'S PACE.

AND UNLIKE MANY OTHER COUNTIES, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT HAS NOT GOT EMS BUSINESS DIRECTORY.

BIGGER AND SMALLER IN ONEIDA COUNTY. BE THAT AS IT MAY, THEY HAVE DECIDED TO GO THIS ROUTE TO HAVE A STUDY AND HAVE ALL THESE MEETINGS AND COME UP WITH HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THEM ANYWAYS. BUT IT IS THROWN ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THE AMBULANCE. AND I'M NOT ARGUING THAT IT'S NOT WARRANTED. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT NOW, DICTATING, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THIS AGAIN HERE, BUT THERE'S SOME AMBULANCE OR SOME LOCAL. AROUND THE PUBLIC. SO ONE OF THOSE JUST HAPPENS TO GO UNDER ONE DAY ONE, WE HAD ONE GO UNDER THAT GOT WHAT LIKE THREE DAYS NOTICE. YEAH. IT WASN'T, IT WAS A, IT WAS A ACTUALLY IT WAS AN EMAIL AT NIGHT AT 10:00 AT NIGHT. HEY, WE'RE NOT IN SERVICE STARTING MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. OH REALLY? YEAH. WELL NOTICE TWO HOURS. YEAH. I MEAN THAT ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, THE SYSTEM COULD COLLAPSE LITERALLY. SOMEBODY'S GOT TO CALL 901. IT WOULD TAKE.

AND BY THE WAY, IF THIS HAPPENS IN MANY OTHER COUNTIES IN THE STATE WHERE YOU'RE WAITING A VERY LONG TIME. WE GET LIKE PARAMEDIC DRIVING THEIR CAR OR TRUCK, AN AMBULANCE. ON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES, PARAMEDICS, THEY'RE GOING ON MEDICAL HELP. AND THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATE ARE ONEROUS, EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY ONEROUS FOR THE COUNTY. BUT I THINK I READ THEM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME. OH, WAIT. HOLD ON. MR. JULIAN HAS ONE QUESTION. IF YOU THINK IT'S EXPENSIVE NOW, WAIT UNTIL WE'RE IN THE AMBULANCE SERVICE.

WITHIN TEN YEARS, YOU START THE AMBULANCE SERVICE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS DOCKET 2026 3531 FOR

[d. 2026-3531 – PROBATION DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE: H. BOLTON RE:     APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PROBATION, AND NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES]

PROBATION. THIS IS AN APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PROBATION AND NEW YORK STATE THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES.

JEREMY CHARLES COVERING FOR HOLLY TONIGHT. SO NICE TO MEET YOU. YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THIS? YEAH. THIS IS JUST OUR OUR ANNUAL GRANT FOR GIVE SLIGHT INCREASE THIS YEAR. WE GOT ABOUT $10,000 MORE IN FUNDING. THAT'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS SALARY AND FRINGES FOR OUR OFFICER THAT'S STATIONED AT THE CRIME ANALYSIS CENTER. OTHERWISE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH PRIOR YEARS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS? WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED. DOCKET PASSES. NEXT UP IS DOCKET 2026 2943 FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THIS IS

[e. 2026-2943 – DISTRICT ATTORNEY DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE: T. CARVILLE RE:     APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S OFFICE, AND THE JOHN F. FINN INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, INC.]

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AN APPROVAL OF GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE JOHN F FINN INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, INC. AND OUR D. A IS HERE TO EXPLAIN THIS DOCKET FOR US. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. YES. SO PART OF OUR STRIVE INITIATIVE IS THAT WE NEED A PROJECT COORDINATOR AND A CRIME ANALYST. WE UTILIZE THE FINN INSTITUTE TO PAY FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS. SO THE MONEY IS 100% FUNDED THROUGH THE STATE TO OUR OFFICE, TO THEN PAY THE FINN INSTITUTE TO EMPLOY THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS FOR THIS PROGRAM, FOR THE D A ON THIS BEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED. DOCKET PASSES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

[f. 2026-3598 – ASSIGNED COUNSEL DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE: C. KLEIN RE:     APPROVAL TO CREATE ONE FULL-TIME PRINCIPAL  CLERK POSITION - DIVISION OF BUDGET, ASSIGNED COUNSEL PROGRAM  ]

NEXT UP IS DOCKET 2026 3598 FOR MR. KLEIN. APPROVAL OF A APPROVAL TO CREATE A FULL TIME PRINCIPAL CLERK POSITION, DIVISION OF BUDGET ASSIGNED COUNSEL PROGRAM. WANTS TO.

SORRY. GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? EXCELLENT. THANKS. GOOD. SO THE NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF INDIGENT LEGAL SERVICES HAS FUNDED, HAS TRIED TO GET THE ASSIGNED COUNSEL PROGRAM TO FUND A NUMBER OF POSITIONS. WE RESIST IT BECAUSE, FRANKLY, WE DON'T NEED THE POSITIONS. AND I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU IT'S BECAUSE I RUN A GREAT DEPARTMENT. BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE REALLY GOOD PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR US. FRANKLY, WE JUST DON'T NEED THEM. BUT THEY HAVE OFFERED US SOME FUNDING FOR A NEW SECRETARIAL POSITION, WHICH WE DO DESPERATELY NEED. WE HAVE TWO GREAT PEOPLE IN THERE NOW WORKING, BUT WE NEED ONE MORE, PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE STATE HAS REQUIRED US TO TO FIND ATTORNEYS FOR NOW FOR MENTAL HEALTH CASES. ADDITIONALLY, FOR PRE INVESTIGATIVE CASES, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

SO IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE MORE EFFORT. WE REALLY COULD USE AN ADDITIONAL SECRETARY. SO WE WOULD ASK THAT THE POSITION BE APPROVED AND IT WILL BE FUNDED BY ILS. I'D HAVE TO SAY WE DON'T SEE YOU HERE VERY OFTEN SO YOU MUST NEED IT. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. NEWTON? GOOD. IS THIS POSITION TEMPORARY OR IS IT PERMANENT? IT SAYS THE GRANT APPLICATION WAS PROVISIONED TO FUND A NEW PRINCIPAL CLERK POSITION FOR THE TERM OF THE GRANT. IS THIS A RENEWABLE GRANT THAT WILL GET ANNUALLY OR BI ANNUALLY? IT IS. IT'S RIGHT NOW IT'S A THREE YEAR GRANT, FRANKLY, I CAN TELL YOU. I MEAN, IT CERTAINLY APPEARS THAT THE STATE IS IS LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO FUND PROGRAMS. I THINK YOU CAN SEE THEM BEGINNING TO SEEMINGLY ASSERT THEMSELVES MORE AND MORE INTO THE LOCAL CRIME, DEFENSE AND FAMILY COURT. SO WHILE IT IS A THREE YEAR GRANT, IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE IT WILL CONTINUE LIKE THE THE DIVISION IS JUST GETTING BIGGER EVERY YEAR AND THE FUNDING GETS STRONGER. SO YEAH, I CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING MORE THAN THREE YEARS, BUT IT DOES APPEAR THAT WAY. BUT THIS IS A PERMANENT POSITION WE'RE CREATING. CORRECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WITH BEING NONE WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED. DOCKET PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOTION TO ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.