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[a. 2026-3275 – COUNTY EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT HEAD: REVERE RE: SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $250,000.00 TO A 8020 6410.498-210 – ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE - VFW (PLANNING) ]
DOCKETS TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE WE DISCUSS. THE FIRST DOCKET UP IS A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $250,000 IN ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE TO VFW UNDER PLANNING. IN THE REQUEST TO THE CHAIRWOMAN THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAD RECEIVED NUMEROUS AMERICAN LEGION AND VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS VIA VFW FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE REQUESTS. THIS DOCKET WOULD SET ASIDE $250,000 USING THE BUDGET LINE FROM THE SPECIAL ITEMS. 0IN STATE AID FUNDING IN THE DESCRIPTION FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE THAT THIS WOULD BE FUNDING A $500,000 TO HELP LOCAL VFW FOR THIS YEAR AND FOR NEXT. ANYBODY FROM COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE THAT WANTS TO TAKE ON QUESTIONS.COMING DOWN THE HALL RIGHT NOW. WE CAN PUT YOU TO. TONY. WE'RE STARTING ON REQUEST FOR FUNDING FOR AMERICAN LEGION'S QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. IS THERE A LIMIT THAT EACH VFW CAN OBTAIN? I MEAN, WE KIND OF KEPT IT AT. SO THEY HAVE TO MATCH. BEAUTIFUL. TONY. IS IT LIKE A A GRANT APPLICATION? IT'S GOING TO BE A BASIC. IN FACT, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, FINALIZING THE APPLICATION AND WE'LL BE SENDING OUT. YEAH, IT'S PRETTY BASIC. AND AGAIN, SIMILAR TO AS OTHER PROJECTS. SHOWING HIM US IS. A MATCH. AND YOU KNOW. INFRASTRUCTURE. CAPITAL. OKAY.
WORK BASED ON THE PROJECT THAT EVERYTHING IS SUBMITTED. ONCE EVERYTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO A SILLY QUESTION, TONY, DO YOU HAVE A HANDLE OR IDEA ON HOW MANY VFW IN THE COUNTY? THERE ARE? THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE 20, HONESTLY, 23, 22. AMERICAN.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VFW AND AN AMERICAN. AMERICAN LEGION. SO IS IT ROUGHLY 25 COMBINED? YEAH, I THINK SO. OKAY. SO WITH THOSE NUMBERS AT A CAP OF 25,000 THIS YEAR, UNDER A TWO YEAR PLAN, A CAP AT MAX AT 25,000, IN ESSENCE, WE COULD OFFER 1020 $5,000 GRANTS, IF YOU WILL, FOR THIS YEAR. AND. CONCEPTUALLY ANOTHER TEN NEXT YEAR. SO THAT'S HITTING AT THE MAX REQUIREMENT OF 20 DIFFERENT AGENCIES OF THE 25 OR SO THAT COULD BE RECEIVED, THAT OBVIOUSLY THE 25,000 IS THE MAX, I WOULD ASSUME. TONY. AND DEVELOPING THAT THAT YOU WOULD GIVE A PREFERENCE IN A SECOND YEAR TO AN AGENCY THAT HAD NOT
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THE PREVIOUS YEAR RECEIVED. IT WAS A ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, ONLY. FOR THIS YEAR. YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE. YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT WE'D START, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE. THERE IS AS IT GOES.OUT. AND ONCE WE SET OUT THE APPLICATION, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER INDICATION OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND WHAT THEY WHAT CAN BE DONE THIS YEAR. THE TIMING, I THINK THAT'S. AND I THINK YOU JUST ALLUDED AS YOU'RE DEVELOPING THE GRANT PROCEDURE, WOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT THE SELECTION PROCESS. WHO OUT OF THE COUNTY IS ON A PERCEIVED COMMITTEE? YEAH, WE WOULD YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY WERE DEVELOPING IT THROUGH PLANNING AND, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS. WE'RE WORKING WITH BOTH OF THEM, AS YOU KNOW. AND WE'LL WE'LL DO SIMILAR.
WHAT WE DID WHEN WE DID THE ARCO PROJECTS WHERE DIDN'T JUST WASN'T JUST AN APPLICATION, IT WAS DONE. WE WENT AND SAW WHAT THEY HAD, MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE TIMELINES AND MILESTONES THEY NEEDED TO BE. SO THAT'LL BE DONE AS WELL. YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. ONE OTHER POINT. YOU'RE PROPOSING TO THIS COMMITTEE THAT THE FUNDING COMES FROM AN MONIES IN YOUR DESCRIPTION OF THE EXPANSION AT THE NATION AND INCREASED REVENUES. SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT SHOWS UP AS A LINE ITEM IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AT 250 UNDER THE. FUNDING.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE SEEING NONE WILL PROCEED TO VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAY NO. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. MIKE, CAN WE JUMP TO MVCC
[c. 2026-3444 – MVCC RE: APPROVAL OF THE 2026-2027 MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE OPERATING BUDGET ]
NEXT? YES. SO IN YOUR EXPEDITED INFORMATION IS THE BUDGET REQUEST FROM MVCC, SEVERAL FROM THIS COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD WERE AT THE PRESENTATION BY MVCC, I BELIEVE, BACK IN BACK IN MAY. SO WITH THAT, PRESIDENT VAN WAGNER, IF YOU WOULD KIND OF RECAP AND HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT OF THIS REQUEST. SURE. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BUDGET. APPRECIATE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SUPPORT. AS I SHARED AT THE PRESENTATION IN MAY AT THE SPRING MEETING ON CAMPUS, CREDIT ENROLLMENT HAS BEEN UP THE LAST THREE YEARS. WE PROJECT IT TO JUST ANOTHER UPTICK OF 1%, BUT THE OVERALL OPERATION HAS REALLY CHANGED QUITE A BIT WHERE NON CREDIT IS ACTUALLY EQUAL TO WHAT WE DO ON THE CREDIT SIDE OF MUCH THE GREATEST INCREASE OF TOTAL ENROLLMENT HAS BEEN IN THE NONCREDIT WORKFORCE SPACE WITH OUR FREE FAST TRACK MODEL BLENDING 15 DIFFERENT FUNDING STREAMS TO PUT 80 PEOPLE A MONTH THROUGH SHORT TERM TRAINING, PARTNERING WITH EMPLOYERS TO LEAD DIRECTLY TO JOBS. BEEN DOING THAT SINCE JANUARY OF 2023, WHERE THE WHOLE MODEL WAS PROTOTYPED WITH STIMULUS DOLLARS FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD. SO THOSE ARE GOING WELL. THE APPLIED TECHNOLOGY CENTER IS COMING OUT OF THE GROUND WITH YOUR SUPPORT, 6500 ZERO SQUARE FEET, DOUBLING THE SPACE OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL SPACE FOR OUR LABS AND TRADES PROGRAMS DESIGNATED AS THE MOHAWK VALLEY ON RAMP CENTER SITE FOR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING THAT WILL REDEVELOP THE VACATED SCIENCE AND TECH BUILDING. WHEN THE APPLIED TECHNOLOGY CENTER IS OPEN. SO A LOT OF STUDENT GRADUATION RATES AND STUDENT SATISFACTION RATES ARE AN ALL TIME HIGH. SO GOOD THINGS GOING THERE AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE BOARD SUPPORT WITH A 2% INCREASE IN OPERATING AND HOLDING ALL OTHER FUNDING LEVEL. QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, THIS COMMITTEE, A FEW THINGS AS JUST KIND OF RECAP, I GUESS, OF LOOKING AT THE. MVC BUDGET THAT 2627 OPERATING BUDGET APPROACHES $10 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE'RE OUT TALKING TO[00:10:01]
CONSTITUENTS, CAMPAIGNING, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY, I FIND IT OFTENTIMES FEW PEOPLE REALIZE, OR A LOT OF THEM DON'T REALIZE, THE SUPPORT THE COUNTY GIVES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. ALSO A SMALLER PIECE IN THERE. OBVIOUSLY, THE INCUBATOR FROM THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT PROJECTS THAT RANDY MENTIONS WHEN WE WERE OUT AT HIS PLACE, I THINK TONY FOUND A PARKING A LITTLE CHALLENGING BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT WAS NO LONGER THERE. IT WAS THE FOUNDATIONAL, THE NEW SCIENCE BUILDING WITH THAT OF KNOWING THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT FROM THIS BOARD OF NEW SCIENCE BUILDINGS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING. AND THE BONDING MONEY. SOME $21 MILLION AND DEBT SERVICE OF OVER $2 MILLION. SO QUITE A COMMITMENT FROM THIS BOARD. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THE COLLEGE IS DOING AND AND THAT SUPPORT, BUT ALSO KNOW THAT THAT GROWTH 2%. BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM THE BOARD, IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AND SUBSTANTIAL. SO WITH THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE WILL PROCEED TO VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. SAY NO. CONGRATULATIONS ON SUCCESSFULLY PUTTING IN PLACE ANOTHER BUDGET.THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR THIRD AND FINAL DOCKET WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT, MR. DAMARYS, IS
[b. 2026-3285 – COUNTY EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT HEAD: REVERE/SCALZO RE: RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE HARRIET TUBMAN UNDERGROUND RAILROAD NEW YORK SCENIC BYWAY NOMINATION AND CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT PLAN]
WOULD YOU BE IF YOU WOULD STEP RIGHT UP THERE? THIS RESOLUTION IS IN SUPPORT OF THE HARRIET TUBMAN UNDERGROUND RAILROAD, NEW YORK SCENIC BYWAY NOMINATION FOR CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU. WE HEARD FROM ALY BACK AT PUBLIC SESSION LAST MONTH. BUT WHY DON'T YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT OF RECAP OF WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES CAN EXPECT AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING OF THE COUNTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JAY AND I'M SECRETARY OF THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD CONSORTIUM OF NEW YORK STATE. ALI SPENCER HAD SPOKEN WITH THIS GROUP BEFORE, AND ALI COULD NOT MAKE IT. SHE LIVES IN NIAGARA FALLS.SOMETHING CAME UP TOO LATE. SO SHE IS THE HEAD HONCHO OF THE WHOLE HARRIET TUBMAN HISTORIC SCENIC BYWAY PROJECT. SO I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF HER AND ON BEHALF OF THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD CONSORTIUM OF NEW YORK STATE. AND WE OPERATE FROM A GRANT FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TOURISM, ADMINISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. DOT AND THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION LAYS DOWN THE REGULATIONS FOR DESIGNATING A NEW YORK STATE HISTORIC SCENIC BYWAY, ONE OF THE DESIGNATIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REQUIRES IS THAT ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT LIE ALONG THE BYWAY, WHICH GOES FROM NEW YORK CITY TO ALBANY, ROUGHLY FOLLOWING ROUTE FIVE ALL THE WAY TO BUFFALO, EXCUSE ME, AND THEN UP TO NIAGARA, 555 MILES THAT EVERY MUNICIPALITY THAT LIES ALONG THAT ROUTE HAS TO SIGN A RESOLUTION, PREFER A PROFFER, A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE HARRIET TUBMAN SCENIC BYWAY. THERE ARE 176 OF THESE MUNICIPALITIES THAT LIE ALONG THAT ROUTE, INCLUDING ONEIDA COUNTIES OF 176 MUNICIPALITIES. WE HAVE RECEIVED CONFIRMATION FROM ALL BUT 13 MUNICIPALITIES. THREE OF THOSE MUNICIPALITIES ARE ONEIDA COUNTY, THE TOWN OF VERNON AND THE VILLAGE OF VERNON. ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO. TWO WEEKS AGO. GOVERNOR HOCHUL SIGNED INTO LAW DESIGNATING THE HARRIET TUBMAN HISTORIC SCENIC BYWAY AND THE NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE ENDORSED THAT AS WELL. IT IS NOW A LAW. THERE IS NOW A PORTION OF THAT THAT IS NOW OFFICIALLY OPEN. IT RUNS FROM, I THINK, NIAGARA FALLS TO TO AUBURN. PARTS OF IT ARE NOT YET FILLED IN. AND SO THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS PROCESS IS TO GET THOSE LAST 13 MUNICIPALITIES ON BOARD. PART OF THIS NEXT EFFORT IS TO START MEETING WITH CONSTITUENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY OF ONEIDA. AND SO IN TWO WEEKS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AT HOPE CHAPEL, LIKE WE DID TWO YEARS AGO, WHERE WE ARE INVITING COMMUNITY PEOPLE TO JOIN US AND TALK ABOUT HOW CAN WE EXPLOIT THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE HARRIET TUBMAN HISTORIC SCENIC BYWAY? HOW CAN WE PUSH ONEIDA COUNTY IN WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THIS HISTORIC SCENIC BYWAY? AND SO THIS IS A SERIES OF MEETINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH OTHER CONSTITUENCIES ACROSS. HOW CAN WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, THE TOURIST OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS OFFERS FOR US, THE UNDERGROUND
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RAILROAD CONSORTIUM? WE'RE NOT INTO THE TOURISM SO MUCH AS INTO THE HISTORY. AND WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT THE HISTORY OF THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD AND HARRIET TUBMAN'S PART IN IT, THAT ONEIDA COUNTY'S HISTORY OF THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD IS NOW GOING TO BE PART OF A STATEWIDE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD WAS LIKE. AND WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD HERE IN ONEIDA COUNTY. SO I CAN OFFER ANY ANSWERS THAT I CAN. I THINK THAT ALI WOULD BE THE AUTHORITY. SHE COULD NOT MAKE IT. BUT HOW CAN I HELP YOU, SIR AND MA'AM? SO I GUESS I'M GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD AND ASK A FEW QUESTIONS THERE. YOU MENTIONED 13 MUNICIPALS THAT HAVE NOT APPROVED ONEIDA COUNTY BEING ONE OF THEM, CORRECT? YEAH. DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND OF NEIGHBORING COUNTIES, MAINLY HERKIMER COUNTY OF APPROVAL THERE? HERKIMER. YES. HERKIMER. YES. IN FACT, THAT WAS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO. IN FACT, IT APPEARED IN THE SENTINEL THAT. HERKIMER. YES. ONONDAGA? NOT YET. SO THAT'S ONE. AND I'M NOT SURE OF THE WAY THAT IT IS BEING DISCUSSED IN ONEIDA COUNTY. APPARENTLY IT'S NOT.THERE IS A RESISTANCE SO MUCH AS A DISAGREEMENT ABOUT WHO SAYS WHAT. I'M NOT. ALLY COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT, VERNON. THE TOWN OF VERNON SAID, QUOTE, WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TELLING US WHAT TO DO, UNQUOTE. THE VILLAGE OF VERNON HAS NOT YET RESPONDED. SO SINCE YOU YOU THROW OUT TOWN OF VERNON AND MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES NOW SITTING HERE JUST FOR CLARITY, FOR YOU, I REPRESENT TOWN OF VERNON, VILLAGE OF VERNON, CITY OF SHERRILL, VILLAGE OF ONEIDA.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT. RIGHT DOWN ROUTE FIVE. SO WHEN WHEN YOUR REACTION OR USING THEIR LANGUAGE. I'M IN CONTACT WITH COUNCILMAN THERE TO. SO KNOWING THAT IS KIND OF A 300 ZERO FEET PRESENTATION. DO YOU KNOW WHY THE HESITATION YOU JUST QUOTED YOUR INTERPRETATION OF VERNON SAYING, NOBODY'S TELLING US WHAT TO DO. I THINK THE TECHNICAL TERM IS HOME RULE, THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE THE STANDARDS AND, AND LAWS THAT THEY UPHOLD ARE APPLIED THERE. FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, DO YOU KNOW WHY A MUNICIPAL MIGHT NOT BE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING THIS? I CANNOT IMAGINE, BECAUSE ALMOST 160 MUNICIPALITIES HAVE SIGNED ON.
AND THE ONLY FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE TOWN OF VERNON WAS THAT, QUOTE, WE DO NOT WANT ANYONE TELLING US WHAT TO DO. THIS WAS AT A PUBLIC MEETING, AND WHEN WE ASKED FOR ELABORATE ON THAT, WE SENT AN EMAIL AND THE RESPONSE WE GOT WAS TWO WORDS STOP IT. SO THERE IS STIFF RESISTANCE. I CANNOT TELL YOU ANY MORE THAN THAT. SO. SO I'LL, WE'LL DELVE INTO A LITTLE DEEPER UNDER YOUR RESOLUTION OR THE COUNTY RESOLUTION AND LANGUAGE IS RESOLVED THAT ON THAT THE COUNTY OF ONEIDA SUPPORTS THE DESIGNATION OF HARRIET TUBMAN, UNDERGROUND RAILROAD, NEW YORK STATE SCENIC BYWAY, WHICH INCLUDES PROGRAMS FOR STEWARDSHIP AND ENHANCEMENT OF THE HISTORIC BYWAY, AND GUIDANCE TO MANAGE FUTURE ACTIVITIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
WHAT IS YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THAT LANGUAGE? MY INTERPRETATION IS THIS IS REALLY VERY MUCH IN THE LONG DISTANCE PLANNING STAGE. WE IN THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD CONSORTIUM HAVE NOT BEEN PRIVY TO THOSE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE HARRIET TUBMAN HISTORIC SCENIC BYWAY IS GOING TO BE A CORPORATE UNIT OF ITS OWN. WE WILL NOT BE INVOLVED WITH THAT ONCE WE HAVE THE HARRIET TUBMAN BYWAY FINISHED. SO THE PROGRAMING THAT YOU TALK ABOUT, I'M AFRAID I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT. I JUST DON'T KNOW. SO I THINK PART OF OUR COUNCILMAN'S DIGGING INTO THIS IS WHEN YOU START UP HERE, I THINK, LOFTY, MOST OF US WOULD AGREE. IT SOUNDS ON THE SURFACE LIKE A GREAT IDEA. AND I'M SURE THAT MOST PEOPLE OF THE 100 AND THE 176 THAT DID SIGN ON PROBABLY DID SO WITHOUT DIGGING DOWN IN THE WEEDS. BUT IF I LOOK AT THIS AND SAY. THE. HE WENT ON, THIS IS FROM A COUNCILMAN WENT ON THE WEBSITE LOOKING AT ROADSIDE RESTRICTIONS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND THAT'S WHERE COMMENTS CAME FROM. THINGS LIKE ROADSIDE MOWING. TREE TRIMMING MUST BE APPROVED BY UNDERGROUND RAILROAD COMMITTEE. AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT IT FROM A TOWN COUNCIL STANDPOINT OF SAYING, WE DON'T WANT YOU TELLING US HOW TO MOW THE ROADS AND WHAT SIGNS TO PUT UP. THIS GOES ON TO SAY THAT THERE'S ALSO FOR SALE SIGNS ALLOWED ON THE LAWNS, BUT NO POLITICAL SIGNS OR
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ELECTION SIGNS ALLOWED ON ROUTE FIVE. AGAIN THEIR INTERPRETATION. SO THE PUSHBACK MIGHT BE, YOU'RE NOT WORKING WITH US AND YOU'RE YOU'RE TONIGHT SAYING, HERE'S 300 ZERO FEET. THEIR CONCERN IS AS THIS GETS DEVELOPED, HOW DOES THAT GET MANAGED? SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE I'M SORRY, A QUESTION BACK IN SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO YOU IS OUR NEW DPW HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH JEFF WHO POLICES IT. SO SO AS THAT'S DEVELOPED, OKAY, DO WE CALL THE SHERIFF AND SAY, MY NEIGHBOR PUT UP THE POLITICAL SIGN THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED, ETC. SO THEY'RE IN AT THAT LEVEL. AND THE CONCERN IS, AS THIS DEVELOPED. AND ALSO ONE OTHER POINT THAT I MAKE IS, IS AS IT GOES THROUGH TOWN OF VERNON, IT LEAVES A STATE HIGHWAY, STATE ROUTE FIVE, AND GOES THROUGH A VILLAGE HIGHWAY, PETERBOROUGH, ONTO A COUNTY HIGHWAY, PETERBOROUGH THAT'S MANAGED WITHIN THE TOWN. SO YOU HAVE REALLY THREE DIFFERENT MANAGEMENTS OF THE BYWAY WITHIN TWO MILES OF EACH OTHER. ET CETERA. I DID GO TO THE VILLAGE MEETING. I WAS THERE, THEY TOOK NO ACTION LAST MONTH, IN ESSENCE TABLED IT AND WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE CONCERN. I THINK THAT YOU'LL GET APPROVAL FROM THE VILLAGE. THE TOWN CONTINUES TO LOOK AT, OKAY, WE APPROVE IT. AND NOW AGAIN, WE LOSE CONTROL AS A TOWN MUNICIPAL BECAUSE OF THIS ROUTE. AND ONE OTHER ONE THAT SAYS ONEIDA COUNTY WILL WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALS ALONG THE THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD BYWAY. AND AGAIN, FROM A COUNTY STANDPOINT, SITTING WITH DPW NEXT TO YOU, HOW DOES THAT THAT GET MANAGED OF SIGNAGE, ETC. AND I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE REGULATIONS IS THAT IF THERE'S A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, CAN I PUT UP A SIGN? CAN IT BE A DIGITAL SIGN THAT PROMOTES MY BUSINESS? THAT BECOMES WHERE THIS TOWN'S CONCERNS HAPPEN TO BE. I'LL LET YOU RESPOND. WELL, I WISH, I WISH I HAD KNOWN ABOUT THESE CONCERNS, AND I THINK THESE ARE THINGS THAT OUGHT TO BE DISCUSSED SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE AT PEACE WITH THE RESOLUTION. AND WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THEN IS I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. THEY'RE JUST NOT MY BALLPARK. THAT'S WHAT ALICE SHOULD BE HERE FOR. ALI WOULD LOVE TO BE HERE TO SIT WITH PEOPLE, INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY THE TOWN OF VERNON, TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I WISH I COULD ALLAY YOUR CONCERNS. AS I STAND HERE, I'M STANDING IN FRONT IN PLACE OF ALI, AND SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE. BUT IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO SIMPLY SIT DOWN AND YES, THESE ARE THE CONCERNS WE HAVE. AND THIS IS HOW IS THIS WHAT THIS IS THIS WHAT THE RESOLUTION MEANS? WHAT EXACTLY WOULD WE HAVE TO DO? AND SO FORTH, MOWING LAWNS AND SO FORTH. I CAN'T ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT WE CAN TALK FACE TO FACE AND IRON THAT STUFF OUT RATHER THAN SIMPLY SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. AND I, AND I THINK KNOWING THAT THE COUNCILMAN, AS I DO, THAT THEY'D BE RECEPTIVE TO THAT. I THINK ALI MAY HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND, AND THEY CAN BE DIFFICULT AT TIMES TO. LET'S CONVEY THAT AND WORK IT OUT. I THINK THEIR ATTITUDE IS WE'RE NOT SIGNING OFF. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD GOVERNMENT PEOPLE SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE TO SIGN ON IN ORDER TO HEAR WHAT'S IN IT. THAT'S THEIR HESITATION. SAY, NO, NO, NO, LET'S LET'S GET IT CLEAR. WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A TOWNSHIP? AND I WOULD SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES SITTING HERE, WHAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS AS A COUNTY. AND AGAIN, I COME BACK TO DPW AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE.I'M SURE HE'D LOVE TO HAVE IT ON HIS PLATE, THAT NOW WE HAVE THE POLICE SIGNS THAT GO UP IN THE WRONG PLACE, ETCETERA. I AGREE WITH YOU. ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION OF YOUR TIMELINE OF APPROVAL. THERE'S NOT A PRESSURE. YOU WANT TO GET EVERYBODY SIGNED ON AND EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT. SO IF WE I DID INVITE TONIGHT THE COUNCILMAN TO COME AND TO TOMORROW'S BOARD MEETING. I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE GOING TO COME. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A SOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD VERSUS SITTING WITH YOU OR ALI TO KIND OF LOOK, DELVE MORE INTO THOSE DETAILS. WELL, ALI, SHE INTENDS TO BE HERE TOMORROW AT 2:00, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROPER PLACE AND TIME TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT I THINK A FACE TO FACE MEETING, WE CAN REALLY WORK THIS OUT. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN UNDUE CONCERN ABOUT THE LOSS OF CONTROL OR UNDUE RESTRICTIONS, BUT I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OTHER PEOPLE CAN, BUT WE REALLY NEED
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TO TALK THIS FACE TO FACE, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO, IS TO FIND A WAY TO GRACEFULLY RECONNECT WITH THE TOWN OF VERNON, BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE DISMISSED, WE WERE DISMISSED.JUST OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION. I DID PASS THE RESOLUTION IN LATE NIGHT, SO THEY HAVE ALREADY SIGNED OFF AND ON BOARD IN TERMS OF THE CONCERNS WITH SILENCE, NO NEW SIGNS. SO EVERYTHING THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WILL CONTINUE AND IT IS LIMITED TO OFF PREMISE SIGNAGE, WHICH MEANS ANY BUSINESS OR PROPERTY THAT EXISTS ON THE BYWAY CAN CONTINUE TO POST WHATEVER IT WANTS ON ITS OWN PROPERTY. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT ADVERTISES SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON PREMISE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU COULD PUT UP A SIGN THAT SAYS FIVE MILES DOWN THE ROAD THERE'S FRESH EGGS. A FARM STAND CAN PUT A SIGN THAT SAYS FRESH EGGS FOR SALE HERE. SO IT. IT. THE. THIS DOES NOT RESTRICT SIGNS THAT ALREADY EXIST. AND IT DOESN'T RESTRICT BUSINESSES OR HOMEOWNERS FROM PLACING SIGNS ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
OKAY, SO SO THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW SIGNS. IF I BUY AND PUT IN A GARAGE ON. I BOUGHT THE LAND HERE BUILDING THE GARAGE, I CAN PUT A SIGN AS MY COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THERE. IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN ON PREMISE SITE. YOU COULD NOT ADVERTISE SOMETHING ON THAT OR SOMETHING FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. AND THE WAY TO POLICE THAT IS OBVIOUSLY THIS WOULD BE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ASK FOR COUNTY THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO PUT A. SO THE SHERIFF WOULD NOT BE KNOCKING ON DOORS AND TELLING PEOPLE TO TAKE SIGNS DOWN. AND JUST ALLOW SIGNAGE TO GO UP IF THEY DIDN'T COMPLY TO THE REGULATIONS. AND DO YOU KNOW IF TEMPORARY SIGNS, I.E. POLITICAL SCIENCE, GRAD SALES DELAY FALL INTO THAT UMBRELLA, PROVIDED THEY ARE ON PREMISE. SO IT WOULDN'T BE IF YOU PUT A SIGN UP ON YOUR OWN LAWN, OR YOUR CANDIDATE HAD TO PUT MORE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PUTTING UP A NEW BILLBOARD THAT DIDN'T EXIST.
AND AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO LANGUAGE. IS THAT POLITICAL SIGN A BILLBOARD? I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE SIGN. I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE ALREADY REGULATED ANYWAY, TO BE FAIR.
BUT IF AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT IT'S IT'S ONLY COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY. IT'S NOT PERSONALLY OR BUSINESS OWNED. SO THOSE, THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT OWN THEIR OWN PROPERTY GET TO MAKE THEIR OWN, OKAY. SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW MY COLLEAGUES HERE FEEL OF WALKING IT FORWARD. OBVIOUSLY, I'M SITTING HERE REPRESENTING TOWN OF VERNON AND VERONA IN THE VILLAGE. I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE DELAYED THIS UNTIL MAYBE ALY HAD A CHANCE TO SIT WITH THEM. WE RECONVENE WITH THEM OR NOT. MOVING IT FORWARD OUT OF COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANY MOTION TO TABLE THIS THING? MOTION TO TABLE. MOVE BY STU. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS TILL NEXT NEXT MONTH SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I ANYBODY OPPOSED. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT MOTION TO TABLE PASSES. WE'LL WORK BACK WITH YOU AND ALI AND I WILL WORK DIRECT. TRY TO SET UP A TIME WITH THE WITH THE VILLAGE. SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES. SORRY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION YET, BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT ONEIDA COUNTY OF ONEIDA CONFIRMS THAT IT WILL ABIDE BY THE FOLLOWING IN ALL EXISTING NEW YORK STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS. WHAT IS IT? JUST BASICALLY THE SIGNAGE. WHAT. WHAT ELSE IS THERE INVOLVED IN IT? SO THE, THE, THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION DID RELATE TO SIGNAGE, BUT IT WAS PROBLEMATIC. SO THEY KIND OF ALLUDED TO THE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE COVERED BY IT. BUT IT IS ALL RELATED TO SIGNAGE SPECIFICALLY NEED PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. REQUIREMENT GOING FORWARD AND THAT WE SIGN ON TO IT. SO THINGS. SOMETHING ELSE AND I DON'T RECALL SEEING IT. SO FROM MY MEMORY I ACTUALLY HAVE THE STATUTES. I WOULD BE HAPPY. I CAN SHARE IT. I CAN SUMMARIZE THEM FOR YOU TOMORROW. PLEASE. SMALL WORDS. YEP. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST BRING IT DOWN. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF. WHAT THE ACTUAL REGULATIONS ARE.
BUT BUT AGAIN, DAVE, DAVE BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT WHEN IT SAYS THE STATE AND FEDERAL REGS THAT IT GOES TO THOSE STATE HIGHWAYS LIKE STATE ROUTE FIVE. BUT AS SOON AS IT'S IN
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PARTICULAR IN VERNON THAT YOU'RE LEAVING FIVE BECAUSE IT GOES UP TO PETERBOROUGH, WHICH WAS FROM THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD, THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT TO TRAVEL. TONY, LOOK, I UNDERSTAND THIS TYPE OF TABLE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS. THE TABLE, SOME TOWN THAT DOESN'T WANT. WHY ARE WE LETTING ONE TOWN DICTATE WHAT THE COUNTY OF ONEIDA PROPOSED? IF EVERY TOWN ALONG THAT ROUTE HAD TURNED UP AND VOTED NO. BUT THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO. OKAY, FINE. WE'LL GO AROUND YOU. WHY ARE WE TABLING SOMETHING? UNLESS YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTING IT? IF YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTING IT, THEN DON'T SUPPORT IT SUPPORTING IT, BUT YOU'RE HOLDING IT UP BECAUSE ONE TIME, ONE TOWN, ONE BOTTOM IS SAYING, NO. HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE TOWN COMING? THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I AGREE WITH WHAT HE JUST SAID. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, TONY, OF SAYING THAT. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THAT THAT ONE IS TRYING TO DEFEND THEIR HOME RULE AND TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. AND IT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT, FROM YOUR DESCRIPTION, IS TIME SENSITIVE, THAT MANY OF THE DOCKETS WE GET COMING DOWN THROUGH THAT MIGHT BE EXPEDITED, ETC. SO THE MOTION WAS MADE AND STANDS THERE TO TABLE IT, AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO RECONVENE AT ANOTHER TIME, WE COULD DO THAT TO BRING IT BACK FROM THE TABLE, BUT WE'LL TRY GETTING SOMETHING SET UP WHERE YOU CAN MEET WITH THE TOWN OF VERNON AND VILLAGE OF VERNON IS THIS NEXT WEEK, SO WE SHOULD HAVE AN AFFIRMATIVE FROM VILLAGE TO ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE THIS BOARD. I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MENTION ALIA'S GOING TO BE HERE TOMORROW. SHE INTENDS TO VOTE ON THIS TOMORROW. TOMORROW IS WHEN THIS. WHAT? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REGULATIONS IS THEY STIPULATE GOING FORWARD. SO EVERYBODY CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE. I THINK THERE'S JUST THERE'S TOO MANY UNKNOWNS. THERE'S TOO MANY UNKNOWNS. AND YOU YOU COULD TELL ME THAT WITHOUT SEEING IT ON PAPER. AND IF YOU COULD SHOW EVERYBODY THAT GOING FORWARD, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE. SO LET ME LET ME JUST ASK THIS OF MARY ANGELA, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, MARY ANGELA, BUT IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN JUST GIVE US A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF THAT RIGHT NOW? OKAY. I JUST SAID I JUST STATES THAT YOU CANNOT PUT NEW ADVERTISING. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING ON YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL EXISTING PIECES. THIS IS SO YOU DON'T PUT UP A BILLBOARD SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT THAT SAYS WHATEVER. YOU'RE NOT DISTURBING THE LANDSCAPE OR ANYTHING DOESN'T IMPACT ANY BUSINESSES. ANY HOMES ON THERE. PROBLEM IS, MARY ANGELA STATED PRETTY ELOQUENTLY, IS YOU CAN'T ADVERTISE WHAT'S DOWN THE ROAD.YOU CAN ADVERTISE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SIX MILES FROM HERE IS, YOU KNOW, IS THE CITY OF ONEIDA. COME THERE AND DO SOMETHING. BUT IT'S IT'S THAT'S THE POINT. OKAY. ABOUT A SCENIC BYWAY THAT EVERY OTHER COUNTY HAS GONE THROUGH AND PASSED, AND WE'RE LETTING ONE TOWN DICTATE. I'M NOT. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. I THINK I THINK YOU'RE SETTING ANOTHER DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. I'M ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN YOU READ THIS, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW WAS JUST A CLARIFICATION. BUT BUT MY POINT HERE IS THOUGH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THAT, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHY SHOULD THEY HOLD UP WHAT THE COUNTY IS? HOMEWORK, OTHER STUFF, I MEAN. I JUST FIND THAT THIS THIS THING IS AROUND FOR MONTHS NOW. AND EVERY OTHER EVERY OTHER COUNTY IS DONE. AND WE'RE GOING TO JUST BECAUSE WE GOT ONE STRETCH THAT'S. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER
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BUSINESS MOTION TO ADJOURN MOVED. SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. KNOW YOU GUYS GOT TO GT BACK TOGETHER. WE CAN MARCH FOR SOMEONE. CONVENE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. YOU DON'T EVER HEAR ME WHEN I SPEAK. ANYWAY, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? I HEARD YOU TRYING TO BE HEARD.NOW YOU'RE MAKING ME WALK OVER HERE. WAIT A MINUTE. WHY ARE YOU GOING TO SCREW THE WHOLE
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THING UP? NOW I GOTTA OBJECT. YOU WEREN'T HERE, SO. I ASKED YOU HERE ON ECONOMIC. WEIGHT CHANGE STUFF. THIS MEETING TO ORDER. MOTION TO TABLE. A MOTION REQUIRES A MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE. NOT A MAJORITY OF THE SITTING QUORUM THAT WE HAVE. SO, ACCORDING TO MIKE, THAT MOTION FAILED. SO THE MOTION IS BACK ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THIS DOCKET. CAN I MAKE A DISCUSSION, MR. JULIAN? YES. FIRST OFF, THIS DOESN'T SOUND TO ME LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS SCENIC AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE THROUGHOUT MANY OF THESE MUNICIPALITIES THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE. IT SEEMS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT AS FAR AS SIGNAGE TYPE SIGNAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THEY LOOK AT AND SEE. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A HUGE REACH, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IF YOU'RE WISHING TO TABLE IT, YOUNG LADY COULD BE HERE TOMORROW INSTEAD OF PUTTING THIS OFF FOR ANOTHER MONTH, WHY NOT MEET WITH HER PERHAPS AT 1130 OR 1115 WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND LET HER EXPLAIN TO THEM, TO US, TO ME, I GUESS, TO WHAT THESE PROVISIONS MEAN, AS THE GENTLEMAN COULDN'T REALLY DO IT. SO MAYBE SHE DOES IT AND PUTS SOME PEOPLE AT EASE AND PUTS IT PAST THIS. I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHERE THIS IS. A LOT OF TIME WAS SPENT ON THIS JUST NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN FAR MORE IMPACTFUL THINGS COME THROUGH THAN THIS AND SPENT LESS TIME ON. I AGREE, THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, KIM, JULIAN IS THE VICE CHAIR, AND I WAS THAT'S WHY I WAS SITTING OVER THERE. I WAS KEEPING AN EYE ON YOU GUYS. THANKS A LOT FOR EXTENDING THIS. AND I'D LIKE TO CHANGE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE WILL PROCEED TO VOTE WITH A RISING VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF IT SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT ARE WE VOTING FOR? THE HIGHWAY RESOLUTION. NO. YES, BUT WAIT TO GO FORWARD. WAIT A MINUTE. TO GO FORWARD WITH IT, NOT TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. PUT YOUR HAND UP NOW. WE'LL FOLLOW THE LEAD. WE'RE FOR IT. WE'RE FOR THE OKAY. APPROVING THE RESOLUTION? YES. IF IT. VOTE IS FIVE FOUR. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THE VOTE IS 5 TO 2.MOTION PASSES. ANY FURTHER? NEW BUSINESS FOR THIS COMMITTEE TONIGHT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO THE VICE CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO. SECOND. SECOND. DOWN. IT'S DONE FOR THE YEAR. IT'S GOING. AGAIN UNTIL NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE ENOUGH. SO AS A RE EXPLANATION FROM MIKE, A MAJORITY WILL MOVE THIS TO WAYS AND MEANS TOMORROW AND TO THE BOARD. IF IT COMES OUT OF WAYS AND MEANS, THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE FULL BOARD. IF IT COMES OUT OF WAYS AND MEANS. SO WITH THAT WE'LL DO A COME BACK TONY. WHY COME BACK AND VOTE A THIRD TIME? I THOUGHT WE JUST PASSED JUST FAILED. SO YOU NEED A MAJORITY TONY OF AND AGAIN, FROM FROM A BOARD MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT WITH A FULL COMMITTEE, THE PASSAGE HAS TO BE A MAJORITY OF THE FULL COMMITTEE, NOT THE QUORUM THAT MAKES UP THE COMMITTEE. SO THERE CAN BE AN INSTANCE WHERE YOU HAVE A BARE QUORUM AND ONE PERSON CAN DEFEAT OR A MOTION. SO AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT JUST HAPPENED. WE NEED SIX OF THE 11 ORDER TO PASS. CAN THAT PUTS A LITTLE PRESSURE ON YOU. I'LL MOVE IT ON TO THE COMMITTEE. I'LL MOVE IT ON TO WAYS AND MEANS. THAT'S FINE. WE'LL REVOTE TO TEN. THERE'S ONLY TEN ON THIS COMMITTEE. CORRECT. SO A MAJORITY OF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SIX.
I'LL VOTE. I'LL GIVE YOU THIS. I WILL VOTE YES. BUT IF IT COMES DOWN THE ROAD, THAT SIGNAGE OR SOMETHING ELSE PROHIBITS SOMEBODY ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY FROM PUTTING UP A SIGN FOR ANYTHING ELSE. I'D LIKE TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT I DON'T FEEL THAT'S CORRECT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. IF YOU'RE ADVERTISING ON YOUR OWN LAND FOR YOUR OWN BUSINESS. BUT IF I USE MY LAND TO PROMOTE A BUSINESS DOWN THE ROAD, WHAT IF I WANT TO PUT UP A SIGN FOR MY
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FRIEND DAVE AND HIS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, THEN DOWN THE ROAD, EVEN IF YOU BUY A PARCEL THAT'S GOING FORWARD, IT'S A NEW, NEW PARCEL. THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH PLANNING ANYWAY. BUT BUT I'M IS THERE ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO POLICE THIS ANYWAY? I KNOW JEFF SAID HE WOULD. YEAH. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING. I DON'T THINK THE SHERIFF'S GOING TO BE SENDING OUT PEOPLE POLICE SIGNS. I DON'T THINK IT'S AT A TIME. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR IF WE VOTE YES ON THIS. IF SOMEBODY ELSE BOUGHT A NEW PARCEL AND IT'S ALONG THIS BYWAY, EVEN THOUGH I AGREE WITH IT, IF IT CAME THAT I COULDN'T PUT UP A SIGN FOR HIM BECAUSE HE'S MY FRIEND, I DON'T. I'LL VOTE YES, BUT I WOULD LIKE IF WE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT. AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF THIS, BECAUSE WHAT ROAD ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? OUR COMMERCIAL DRIVE AND OUR TOWNSHIP CALLED STATE ROUTE FIVE. AND ALL THE STATE REGULATIONS GO DOWN THROUGH. WELL, FROM AN ADVERTISING STANDPOINT, YES. SO WITH THAT, TO MOVE IT TO WAYS AND MEANS, WE NEED SIX OF THE SEVEN OF US SITTING HERE, YOU REALIZE THAT EVERY OTHER TOWNSHIP ALONG HAS APPROVED US. SO YOU'RE JUST GOING TO CHANGE IN BOTH FOR ONE TIME? NO, NO NO, WE'RE I'VE ALREADY SAID I WOULD VOTE YES ON GETTING A MAJORITY, TONY, TO MOVE IT TO WAYS AND MEANS TOMORROW. BUT THE ARGUMENT IS, FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE SEVERAL OTHER HIGHWAYS, A SCENIC HIGHWAYS THAT APPLY THE SAME METHOD THAT THIS ONE STRICTLY ABOUT FUTURE THINGS. OH YOU CAN'T IF YOU BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON ON THAT HIGHWAY FROM OR FROM WHOMEVER YOU WANT TO ADVERTISE FOR FILMS BUSINESS IN UTICA, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.IT'S THAT SIMPLE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S NOT A BIG IT'S NOT A REAL LOT TO FIGURE OUT. AND THERE'S NO PLACE THAT YOU CAN'T PUT UP A BRAND NEW BILLBOARD IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, OF THAT SCOPE. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. THESE ARE THESE ARE STATE HIGHWAYS THAT ARE DONE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE'VE GOT 4000 RIGHT HERE ON. I'M JUST I'M I'M NOT ARGUING YOUR POINT. I'M ARGUING THE FACT THAT YOU'VE ALREADY. THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. SO.
UTICA. YEAH, I. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL VOTE ONE MORE TIME. WE NEED A MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE, WHICH YOU POINT OUT THAT THE TEN. A MAJORITY OF THAT IS. SIX SO WE NEED. SIX TO APPROVE THIS TO MOVE IT TO WAYS AND MEANS ONE MORE TIME. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. FOR ALL. OPPOSED? NO, MIKE. THE RECORD LET IT BE RECORDED. THE VOTE WAS 6 TO 1. THIS GETS FORWARDED TO WAYS AND MEANS TOMORROW. A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
PLEASE DO. SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.