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NEVER, EVER, NEVER. YEAH. ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'LL CALL THE DPW TO ORDER,
[Call to Order]
PLEASE. FOR THOSE OF YOU ON THE COMMITTEE THAT DIDN'T FIND IT ON YOUR DESK, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONS THAT CAME IN LATE THAT GETS TWO, TWO, THREE FOUR AND TWO, TWO, THREE, FIVE. DID EVERYONE FIND THOSE WAITING FOR YOU ON YOUR DESK? IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ONE WE'LL BE DOING TWO, FOUR, EIGHT FOR OUR WATER QUALITY CONTROL. IT'S A COUPLE OF[h. 2025-2048 – WATER POLLUTION RE: RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE STANDARDIZATION TO TROJAN TECHNOLOGIES EQUIPMENT FOR WATER POLLUTION CONTROL PLANT ULTRAVIOLET EFFLUENT WATER DISINFECTION SYSTEM PROJECT ]
BINDING RESOLUTIONS THAT CAME IN LATE. BUT WE'LL BEGIN WITH FOUR EIGHT EQUIPMENT SELECTION.WATER QUALITY CONTROL. POLLUTION CONTROL SEEKS APPROVAL OF STANDARDIZING THE TROJAN TECHNOLOGIES CORPORATION'S EQUIPMENT FOR THE UV DISINFECTION PROJECT. THIS IS ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. TO GET RID OF THE CHEMICALS AND GO TO THE UV. ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THIS DOCKET ON THE UV SYSTEM THAT WE BEAT TO DEATH FOR A LONG TIME, I THINK WE'VE GONE UP. OUR BONDING HAS GONE UP. CARL. WE'LL GET A COST PER HOME. WELL, I THINK FIRST THIS IS 2048 TIM. OKAY. WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS ONE FIRST. MOVE ON TO THE OTHER TWO. ANY QUESTIONS ON 2048. CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[i. 2025-2234 – WATER POLLUTION RE: A RESOLUTION APPROVING, PURSUANT TO SECTION 268 OF THE COUNTY LAW, AN INCREASE AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE FACILITIES OF THE ONEIDA COUNTY SEWER DISTRICT IN AND FOR SAID COUNTY AT A NEW MAXIMUM ESTIMATED COST OF $11,400,000 ]
[j. 2025-2235 – WATER POLLUTION RE: A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING $5,400,000 BONDS OF THE COUNTY OF ONEIDA, NEW YORK, TO PAY COSTS OF CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE ONEIDA COUNTY SEWER DISTRICT IN AND FOR SAID COUNTY. ]
ANY OPPOSED? SO NOW WE WILL DISCUSS THE TWO OTHERS. WE'LL DISCUSS THEM TOGETHER. 20662089 AND THEN VOTE ON THOSE SEPARATELY. BUT TIM, YOU WANT A QUESTION ON THOSE. GO BACK TO THE QUESTION AT HAND. IS THIS INCREASE THERE? I SEE THE REVISED ESTIMATED ANNUAL COST OF SUCH INCREASE IN IMPROVEMENT TO A TYPICAL PROPERTY. INSTEAD DISTRICT 11 FOR A SINGLE FAMILY AND 17 FOR A TWO FAMILY. YEAH. THE ORIGINAL THE ORIGINAL BOND RESOLUTION FROM PROBABLY A YEAR AGO WAS ABOUT FOR $6 MILLION. SUBSEQUENTLY, WE'VE GOT A CONSULTANT ON BOARD LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER OTHER PLANTS THAT HAVE UV DISINFECTION. THERE'S BEEN SOME SCOPE CREEP CREEP, SOME COST INCREASES. THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE PROJECT WENT FROM 6 TO 11.4, I BELIEVE IT IS SO. BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE, IT'S SOMETHING WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE EVALUATING AND GOING TO UV OR NOT WAS COULD WE USE THE THE COST SAVINGS FROM CHEMICALS TO PAY THE DEBT SERVICE? THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE IS AROUND A HALF $1 MILLION. THE CHEMICAL COSTS ARE SOMEWHERE AROUND 400,000. SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER 100,000 ON A ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ON THE SIZE OF OUR BUDGET. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ABLE TO EAT. SO WHEN YOU SEE THE ANNUAL COST PER PER CUSTOMER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ENVIRONMENTAL FACILITIES CORPORATION NEEDS TO SEE. IF THERE WAS NO OTHER SOURCE OF MONEY, AND WE STRICTLY WERE GOING TO TAKE THIS BONDING IN THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HIT THE RATEPAYERS WITH IT. WHAT WOULD THE WHAT WOULD THEIR ANNUAL CHARGE BE? SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE TOTAL COST OF WAS IT $17 OR SOMETHING. BUT IN REALITY YOUR THOUGHT IS IF ALL THINGS ARE YEAH WOULD BECOME IT SHOULD BALANCE ITSELF OUT AND WE SHOULDN'T BE SEEING ANYTHING, ANY, ANY INCREASE DUE TO THIS PROJECT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU CARL, EXCEPT FOR LAUNDROMATS. EVERY TIME. LIKE EVERY TIME. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS ON THESE TWO DOCKETS, EITHER ONE OF THEM. OKAY. HAVING NONE. WE'LL FIRST ASK FOR THE VOTE ON 2006. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES. UNANIMOUS. MOVE ON TO THE BONDING RESOLUTION 2089. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.CARL. APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. OKAY. MOVING ON TO. SECOND. CHANGE. WHERE'S YOURS GO. OH YEAH. THE ONE FOR. ONE SINGLE DECKER HERE FOR JAMES. PLANNING FOR MITIGATION. YEAH. IT. GOT
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IT HERE ON THIS COMPUTER. TELL US WHAT WERE WE GOING TO DO TODAY. NOW I HAD IT HER BROKEN UP I THINK BECAUSE WE JUST DID THESE TWO. YEAH. AND IT'S REALLY THIS ONE IN THE BACK PAGE. YEAH. YEAH I DID. 6769 FOR AN ADJOURNMENT TO BREAK. YEAH. WE COULD. GOT HIM. YEAH.YOU SAID. NO I STILL DON'T HAVE THAT ONE. I THINK MIKE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MISNUMBERED FROM WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BRIEF TO WHAT HE JUST READ. SO SO 22006 AND 2089 ARE BOTH ON FLOOD MITIGATION AND PLANNING. AND HE JUST DID THE 2048 AND 2235. YEAH. 2234 OKAY. SO THAT'S THE WATER POLLUTION. PLANNING. SO I HAD THE 206 AND 289 ON THE WRONG ONES. THAT'S THE ONES FOR THE. MR. CHAIR, WHY DON'T YOU JUST TAKE THEM IN ORDER? THAT'LL BE EASY FOR ALL OF US. WELL, I WAS TRYING TO GET JAMES HAD ONE, SO I WAS TRYING TO GET THE ONE AHEAD OF IT. THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. OKAY? GOT NOTHING BUT TIME. YOU STILL HAVE TO DO TWO.
MEETINGS AS LONG AS YOU WOULD LIKE. I WOULD, I WOULDN'T PUT IT LIKE THAT. STARING AT YOU.
I'M BACK HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF. YOU'RE STARING AT DAVE. RIGHT? YEAH. OH, DEAR GOD, BEAR WITH ME. DEPUTY. I DIDN'T LIKE YOU. GOT TO GET OUT EARLY TONIGHT AND LEAVE. YEP. WENT FROM THE RECORD OF THE SHORTEST COMMITTEE MEETING TO SYRIA IS GOING TO EXTEND THIS OUT. SO THAT'S SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. OKAY OKAY. 2089. THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S IN PLANNING. SO. AND THEN YOU VOTED ON 2234 WHICH WAS THE AUTHORIZATION. YOU ALSO.
OKAY. YEAH WE DID THOSE THREE FOR THE ALL THREE OKAY I GOT YOU. YES. SO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. YEAH. THE ONE THE 28208920062089. 1132 AND 74 RIGHT HERE, 72 AND 74 IF JAMES WAITED TILL THE END. WAS PAGE 72 AND 74. OKAY. SO, JAMES AND 200620089. FOR THE TOWN OF
[c. 2025-2006 – PLANNING RE: APPROVAL OF A FLOOD MITIGATION GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING, AND THE TOWN OF PARIS ]
[d. 2025-2089- PLANNING RE: APPROVAL OF A FLOOD MITIGATION GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING, AND THE TOWN OF PARIS ]
PARIS. WATER MAINS TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT ONES ON THE HOME AND CITY ROAD. ONE IN THE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S TWO DIFFERENT ROADS. THAT SAME ROAD. ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER ONE OF THESE TWO WATER PROJECTS FOR THE TOWN OF PARIS? NO ONE WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE ON FAVOR. SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. MOVING ON TO[a. 2025-1967 – PUBLIC WORKS RE: APPROVAL OF A MASTER TEMPLATE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY AND VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES FOR ROADSIDE DITCHING ]
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1967, THE DITCHING AGREEMENTS TEMPLATES FOR 2026. SIX IS LOOKING AT 13 EIGHT. FOR 40 HOURS OF DITCHING FOR EACH MUNICIPALITY. IT'LL BUMP UP IN 2027 TO 1400. CURRENTLY THIS YEAR IT'S 13 SIX. SO IT'S A 200 HOUR BUMP ON EACH YEAR. AND THAT'S BASED ON THE FEMA. RATES THAT THEY PROVIDE TO DPW. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, KEITH? YEAH. SO COMMENT AND A QUESTION. TOWN OF VERNON HAS BEEN SHORT-STAFFED AND CHOSE NOT TO DO THE DITCHING ONES. HAD AN ISSUE OUT THERE WITH SOME DITCHING ON A COUNTY ROAD THIS YEAR. CALLED YOU GUYS UP AND WORKED WITH THAT PHENOMENAL JOB OF COMING OUT AND SOLVING THAT. THOSE ON PETERBOROUGH, A SECTION THAT HAD HEAVY WASH AND AFFECTING A FARMER'S FIELD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.THE QUESTIONS IS, IS A TIMING AND IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS CONTRACT.
SO WHEN YOU SEND THEM OUT HERE WE SIT IN NOVEMBER. WHEN DO THE THE TOWNSHIPS TYPICALLY COMMIT AND SIGN THEM AND SEND THEM BACK. DO YOU KNOW I CAN'T SAY WHEN THEY COMMIT I KNOW THEY SEND THEM OUT IN MAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHEN THE CONTRACT THE PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE IS IN MAY.
I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHEN IT IS. I GET BACK TO YOU NEXT WEEK. SO. SO FOR 2026, THEY WOULD TYPICALLY GET OUT THERE THIS SPRING AND THEN ACTIVATED MAY FOR THE DITCHING SEASON SO TO SPEAK. YES. RIGHT. SO AND THAT'S A GOOD TIMING BECAUSE WE'RE IN A SITUATION THAT I THINK AS OF JANUARY 1ST THAT OUR HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT IS RETIRING. SO A NEW ONE APPOINTED COME ON BOARD THAT WILL WORK WITH THE TOWN BOARD. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY'LL SIGN A CONTRACT BECAUSE HE'S PROBABLY INHERITING A SHORT STAFFED DPW FOR THE TOWN ANYHOW.
SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING. AND WHETHER THE TOWN ENACTS THAT, THE NEW PERSON COMING ON. AND THEN I GUESS THE LAST QUESTION OF YOU HAVE THE 40 HOURS AND THE THE INCIDENTS WERE HEAVY RAINS THAT DID SOME, SOME WASHING THOSE DITCHES. IF IF THE TOWN SAYS, NO, WE CAN'T DO IT, DON'T SEND IT BACK. BUT THEN IT'S INTO A SITUATION. IS THERE ANYTHING WHERE THE THE TOWN IS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO, TO MITIGATE AN ISSUE, OR IS IT STRAIGHT YOU DIDN'T SIGN IT, YOU'RE OUT. SO I GUESS I'M ASKING IF THERE'S A DELAY IN SIGNING AND THEN THERE'S AN INCIDENT. IS THERE ANY HOW DOES THAT WORK FROM A DPW? WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS AFTER NEXT WEEK'S BOARD MEETING, ASSUMING THE BOARD APPROVES THIS TEMPLATE OVER THE NEXT 3 OR 4 WEEKS, WE'LL BE SENDING THESE TO THE MUNICIPALITIES. THEY DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO SIGN UNTIL, YOU KNOW, MAY 1ST IS, LIKE I SAID, THE START OF PERFORMANCE. AND THERE IS A NEW CLAUSE IN THIS VERSION OF THE TEMPLATE, SECTION 4.3 IT LETS DPW ASSIGN MORE HOURS TO MUNICIPALITY, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T EXCEED THE TOTAL BUDGET. I THINK IT'S 750 GRAND. SO WE'RE REALLY FLEXIBLE.
WE'RE NOT USING THIS AS A AS A CUDGEL TO TO BIND THE MUNICIPALITIES. IT'S JUST TO SAVE US SOME RESOURCES IF WE HAVE THEIR HELP ON THIS. WELL, AND I THINK THE APPROACH HAS BEEN TERRIFIC, ESPECIALLY THIS LIKE I MENTIONED ON PETERBOROUGH THIS YEAR OF OF THE WORK THERE. AND I COMPLIMENT YOUR DEPARTMENTS FOR, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH, WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALS TO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. AND I KNOW IF YOU KNOW IF IT'S AN ODDITY, WE'LL COME OUT AND WORK WITH THE TOWN, YOU KNOW. SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HAVING NONE. WE'LL CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? PASSES. 1909
[b. 2025-1909 – PUBLIC WORKS RE: APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND MARCH ASSOCIATES, ARCHITECTS AND PLANNERS, P.C. ]
CONSULTING SERVICES AGREEMENT, DPW. AND. 1771 PUBLIC WORKS SEEKS APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT WITH MARCH ASSOCIATES TO PREPARE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR COUNTY BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS. FEES ARE 320,800 PLUS TIME AND MATERIALS. EXPENSES FOR MANDATORY. JUSTICE AND ABATEMENT, PROJECT MONITORING AND AIR SAMPLING. LIST OF DIFFERENT AREAS.THEY'VE GOT UNISEX BATHROOMS IN BERNVILLE AND DPW FACILITIES, ROOF UPGRADES AND REPLACING THE ROOF FROM 120 AIRLINE. THE WHITESTONE BUILDING ENTRANCE REPAIRS AT 200 ELIZABETH
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OVERHEAD DOOR REPLACEMENTS AND ORISKANY AND TABERG DPW FACILITIES, AS WELL AS THE COURTROOM HANDICAP, ACCESSIBILITY, COMPLIANCE AND EVALUATION. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE HAVING NONE. WE'LL CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?[e. 2025-2049 – MVCC RE: APPROVAL OF A TRANSPORTATION OPERATIONS INSTITUTE TRAINING PROPOSAL BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE]
OPPOSED. MR. BUCK IS OPPOSED. BEGAN TO 2049. AGREEMENT FOR PLOW DRIVER TRAINING ON PAGES 78 AND 80. PUBLIC WORKS REQUEST CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSAL FROM MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR ONE PERSON. PLOWING AND TRAINING CERTIFICATION. WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST. I THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY JUST PUTTING IT IN THE FORM OF AN AGREEMENT. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. HAVING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY 9 TO 1910.[f. 2025-1910 – PUBLIC WORKS RE: APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND C & S ENGINEERS, INC. ]
CONSULTING SERVICES FOR DPW FOUND ON PAGES 8182. PUBLIC WORKS SEEKS APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT WITH CNS ENGINEERING TO PREPARE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE RENOVATION OF SHOWER UNITS IN THREE CELLBLOCKS AT THE COUNTY JAIL. THE FEE IS 135,363, PLUS TIME AND MATERIALS EXPENSE, MANDATORY ASBESTOS ABATEMENT, PROJECT MONITORING AND AIR SAMPLING. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?[g. 2025-1997 – PUBLIC WORKS RE: APPROVAL CHANGE ORDER NO. 2 TO AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND GREENMAN-PEDERSEN, INC. ]
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. LAST DOCKET 1997. CHANGE ORDER FOR CULVERT PROJECT ON PAGES 83 AND 84.PUBLIC WORKS REQUEST TO CHANGE ORDER FOR THE CONTRACT WITH GREENMAN PETERSON FOR DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SUMMIT STREET CULVERT OVER MILL CREEK IN BOONVILLE.
CHANGES INCREASE THE MAXIMUM PAYABLE FROM 245 600 TO 370 603 AND WOULD EXTEND IT OUT CONTRACT TO DECEMBER OF 2026. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. MR. BUCK WHY THE CHANGE? MAINLY BECAUSE INITIALLY WHEN IT WAS RFP, THE COUNTY DID NOT EXPECT TO INCUR ANY RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED. THEN ONCE WE GOT INTO DESIGN, NOW WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE THERE'S EXTENSIVE RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED, AND THE MORE HOURS, MORE, MORE INVESTIGATION BY THE DESIGN TEAM. WOULD WE TYPICALLY REBID A PROJECT LIKE THAT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS COME UP FROM A PROPOSAL SUSPECT IT'S YOU. YOU COULD. BUT GIVEN THE OUT WHEN YOU HAVE WHEN YOU HAVE A SCOPE OF WORK AND PEOPLE BID ON IT, NOW THE SCOPE CHANGES. IT KIND OF. YEAH.
YES. BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THIS FIRM HAS ALREADY COMPLETED IN RELATION TO IT, I WASN'T AWARE THAT THE PROJECT WAS ONGOING. YEAH, YEAH, IT STARTED. SO THEY'RE AT A POINT WHERE THEY KNOW THEY NEED TO DO THIS EXTRA SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SEPARATED OUT OR OR NOT KNOW IT'S INHERENT TO DOING THE THE CULVERT REPLACEMENT OUT AS TO REBID. OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS ONGOING AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY. YEAH. YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU. HOW'S THAT CHRIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HAVING NONE. WE'LL CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF 1997 SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
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