[Call to Order] [00:00:06] THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS MEETING TO ORDER. AND MIKE IS TAKING ATTENDANCE. AND. TONY, TONY, MR. CAVALLI, CAN I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION? YOU'RE ON FIRST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. [a. 2025-1859 – FINANCE RE:   APPROVAL OF ONE (1) REFUND AND TWO (2) CORRECTIONS TO VARIOUS ERRONEOUS TAX ASSESSMENTS  ] THESE ARE ALL. THESE ARE ALL FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO DOCKET NUMBER 1859, FINANCE ACT FOR CONSIDERATION OF THREE PROPERTY TAX REFUNDS AND CORRECTIONS. THE REFUND IS 705 40 AND THE CORRECTIONS IS 118 17. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SIR. AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TONY RELATIVE TO THIS DOCKET. OKAY. THERE BEING NONE. LET'S TAKE THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IT WILL PASS THAT DOCKET GOING ON [b. 2025-1797 – FINANCE  RE:     APPROVAL OF AN AUCTIONEER AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE, AND AUCTIONS INTERNATIONAL, INC.  ] TO DOCKET NUMBER 1797. FINANCE REQUEST APPROVAL OF CONTRACT WITH AUCTIONS INTERNATIONAL FOR THE SALE OF TAX DELINQUENT PROPERTIES AND ANY ATTACHED BUILDINGS, STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES. THE ESTIMATED COUNTY REVENUE IS $100,000 OVER FIVE YEARS. THE AGREEMENT EXPIRES JUNE 30TH, 2030. THE FIRM WAS SELECTED AFTER AN RFP. FINANCE IS USED AUCTIONS INTERNATIONAL FOR THE SERVICE. IN THE PAST, SALES ARE CONDUCTED VIRTUALLY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISTER CAVALLI? GO AHEAD. CHAD. HI, TONY. I'M SEEING THAT I KNOW LES PORTER, I THINK DONATED HIS SERVICES FOR COUNTY AUCTIONS. BUT HERE THE COUNTY PERCENTAGE OR SHARE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ZERO. IS THIS TO HAVE HIM PERFORM SERVICES OR THIS OUTFIT TO PERFORM SERVICES ON AUCTION? AND IS THERE A COST? NO, THERE'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY. THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THEY ADD A BUYER'S PREMIUM ONTO THE BED SO THE BUYER ENDS UP PAYING A PREMIUM. OKAY. WHICH HELPS TO PAY FOR THEIR FEE. THEN THROUGH THIS CONTRACT, A PORTION OF THAT ALSO COMES BACK TO US. THAT'S THE $100,000 REVENUE OVER FIVE YEARS THAT WE ESTIMATED. SO THERE'S NO APPROPRIATION FOR IT. IS THERE A HOW MANY AUCTIONS YOU ARE YOU PLANNING TO RUN EACH YEAR? ABOUT THREE. NO. USUALLY TWO WE DO TWO WE DO USUALLY ONE EARLY IN MAY. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE AROUND SEPTEMBER. END OF AUGUST. SEPTEMBER FOR PROPERTIES THAT PERHAPS WE DIDN'T GET GOOD SERVICE ON, WE STILL NEEDED TO DO MORE WORK ON THOSE. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THE AUCTION IS THE IS THE BIG ONE BIGGER ONE? IT'S THE BIGGER ONE. CORRECT IT ALSO HAS REDUCED OVERTIME FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. YEARS AGO, WE USED TO DO THIS. WE'D HAVE TO PAY OVERTIME. SO WE ALSO USED TO HAVE TO PAY FOR A FACILITY. WE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. SO WE ALSO USED TO HAVE TO HAVE PRINTING COSTS AND SOME ADVERTISING COSTS. THAT'S ALL BUILT INTO THIS CONTRACT NOW. SO THIS CONTRACT ACTUALLY SAVES THE COUNTY MONEY. IT MAKES US MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE PRODUCTIVE. AND THE RECOVERY, OF COURSE, IS ONLY WHAT WAS OWED THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF TAXES, BECAUSE THEN THE COUNTY HAS TO WORK TO RETURN MONEY. IF IT'S A LOT OF WORK. YEAH. AND THAT. YEAH. ARE YOU IF ATTORNEY RETTINGER WAS HERE, HE WOULD TELL YOU. ALSO, ARE WE ABLE TO WORK? ARE WE ABLE TO RECOVER FOR SOME OF THAT TIME? THE WORK INVOLVED IN THAT. VERY LITTLE. VERY LITTLE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. YOU ALL SET, CHAD? OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TONY? OKAY. THERE BEING NONE, LET'S TAKE THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. [c. 2025-1905 – FINANCE RE:     APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE, AND DECKARD TECHNOLOGIES, INC.  ] ANY OPPOSED? WE'LL PASS THAT DOCKET. ONE MORE DOCKET, TONY. DOCKET NUMBER 1905. FINANCE SEEKS CONSIDERATION OF A CONTRACT WITH DECKER TECHNOLOGIES TO ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN A SHORT TERM RENTAL REGISTRY FOR THE COUNTY. THE REGISTRY WILL ENABLE THE COUNTY TO EXTEND THE 5% MOTEL AND HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX TO SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS. THE THREE YEAR AGREEMENT RUNS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 28, WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWALS. ANTICIPATED COST IS 35,003 75 A YEAR. DECKER WAS SELECTED AFTER AN RFP FOR FIRMS RESPONDED TO WERE INTERVIEWED. TONY, ANY PROJECTIONS ON ANNUAL REVENUE FROM THIS OR. IT'S REALLY KIND OF DIFFICULT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A GAUGE ON THE SHORT TERM [00:05:07] RENTAL NUMBERS, LIKE HOW MANY DUPLICATES THERE ARE OUT THERE, BECAUSE THEY ADVERTISE ON MULTIPLE PLATFORMS. SO RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO RUN THE NUMBER OF STARS THAT ARE OUT THERE. I'M GUESSING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 500 TO 1000. SO, I MEAN, WE CAN WORK UP NUMBERS OFF OF THAT AND GIVE YOU A RANGE. I DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY, BUT RIGHT NOW I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH GIVING AN ESTIMATE ON IT BECAUSE IT'S WE JUST DON'T HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH HANDLE ON IT. I GOTCHA. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR TONY RELATIVE TO THIS DOCKET? OKAY. THERE BEING NONE, GO AHEAD, CHAD, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME THAT APPARENTLY THINK THEY'RE OFF THE RADAR AND THEY CAN FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. AND THAT WILL BE UNDERSTOOD MAYBE IN A YEAR OR TWO. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? THERE'S EVERYONE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A KNOWLEDGE OF THERE'S NO SYSTEM TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S DOING THIS RIGHT NOW. THIS THIS WILL BE THE SYSTEM. WE WILL BE CONTRACTING WITH THEM. AND THEY THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THIS. THEY'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER COUNTIES IN NEW YORK AND OTHER COUNTIES AND FACILITIES, MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. THEY HAVE PRETTY SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGY. THEY WILL DATA MINE THIS BIG DATA, DATA MINING AND FIGURE OUT WHO'S DOING IT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEY ALSO HAVE THE SOFTWARE. SO THEY HAVE THE SOFTWARE TO DO THE REGISTRATIONS TO MONITOR TO DO COMPLIANCE. SO IN THIS STARTUP AS A LID LIFTER COMPANY TO START DOING THIS, THEY ARE A GOOD ONE TO GO WITH BECAUSE THEY DO ROUND THINGS UP. THEY MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST COST EFFICIENT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT RIGHT NOW WITH THEIR SPECIALTY, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE THE PROPER COMPANY TO GO WITH. WELL, WITH THE FOUR RFP THEY WERE PRETTY COMPETITIVE ON PRICE. I MEAN, WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE HERE, INCLUDING THE TECHNOLOGY, THE SOFTWARE AND THE SOPHISTICATION OF IT, I DON'T SEE THE PRICE BEING OUT OF LINE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU TOOK THE PRICE OF THIS AS A RATIO OF THE ESTIMATED. I THINK YOU HAD. THEY HAD GIVEN YOU A FIGURE BEFORE OF THE ESTIMATED COLLECTIONS, WHETHER THAT FIGURE IS GOOD OR NOT. BUT IF YOU TAKE THIS COST OVER AS A RATIO OF THE COLLECTION, IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY SMALL. IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE. SO IT'S I DON'T SEE IT AS NOT REALLY COST EFFECTIVE. AND THAT MINING, WOULD YOU NOT SAY HAS TO CONTINUALLY BE DONE BECAUSE SOME WILL GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS BUT OTHERS WILL GET IN? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THEY'RE IN AND OUT ALL THE TIME ON STRS, AND THIS, THIS TECHNOLOGY HERE WITH THIS COMPANY GIVES US REAL TIME DATA, EXCELLENT. DAILY. GOOD. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY, NORM, JUST LOOKING. SO YOU'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT YOU'RE GOING TO GO ALL FIVE YEARS. YOU'RE ASKING FOR 176,000. WELL IT'S NOT A IT'S IT'S 37 A YEAR. IF YOU WANT TO SAY 170 IT'S 37 A YEAR AND IT GOES FOR THREE YEARS. AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RENEWED. AND WE'RE NOT. THERE'S A REQUEST FOR 176,000. THAT'S THE FIVE YEARS. THAT WOULD BE FIVE YEARS IF IT WENT FIVE YEARS. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. IT WOULD BE, BUT I DON'T I DON'T LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. I WOULDN'T LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. I WOULD LOOK AT IT. THE COST IS 30 75A YEAR. RIGHT. IT'S VERY CONSERVATIVE. THAT'S A GOOD LOOK. WELL TO ME IT I MEAN OKAY, YOU CAN SAY YEAH, THAT'S OVER FIVE YEARS, BUT IT'S OVER FIVE YEARS. IT'S 37, FIVE A YEAR. I GUESS MY ONLY POINT WAS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK OUT BECAUSE OF THE REQUEST OF DOLLARS FOR FIVE YEARS. WELL, I DON'T SEE US COMPLYING. I DON'T SEE ANY COUNTY COMPLYING WITH A LOCAL LAW ON SHORT TERM RENTAL REGISTRIES AND THE COLLECTION OF THE TAX. THERE ISN'T ONE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT ONE COUNTY THAT HASN'T CONTRACTED WITH ONE OF THESE FIRMS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU WOULD FIND ALL OF THESE, THESE THESE PLACES, LET ALONE GET THEM ALL REGISTERED, DEAL WITH COMPLIANCE, DEAL WITH NOTIFICATIONS, DEAL WITH COLLECTIONS. I DON'T SEE I [00:10:06] DON'T SEE HOW. WELL, NO ONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE IN THE STATE HAS DONE THAT. I DON'T SEE HOW THEY COULD. THANK YOU. OH. YOU'RE WELCOME. SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TONY? OKAY. THERE BEING NONE, LET'S TAKE THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IT WILL PASS THAT. TONY. THANKS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? JUST WALK AWAY. THAT'S AN ADJOURNM * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.