[Dockets] [00:00:03] YEAH. ALL RIGHT. LET'S START WITH 1637 APPROVAL OF A TEMPLATE FOR FOSTER CARE SERVICES BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY AND THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND VARIOUS FOSTER CARE SERVICE PROVIDERS. WENT THROUGH COMMITTEE AND MIKE SPOKE ON THIS. QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. 1575. THIS IS AN APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, AND REBUILDING. THE VILLAGE, INCORPORATED AGAIN WENT THROUGH COMMITTEE THURSDAY. QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS SPECIFIC TO THIS RESOLUTION. IT IS A NEW CONTRACT AND IT ITS TARGET IS HIGH RISK. YOUTH. TYPICALLY IN THE CORNHILL AREA FOR THIS ONE PREVENTATIVE IN NATURE. AND IT COVERS A LOT OF BENCHMARKS. THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO ACHIEVE QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE. 1575 NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. WE MOVE ON TO 1198. APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THE HOUSE OF GOOD SHEPHERD. MIKE ALSO COVERED THIS. AND AGAIN, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT NON-SECURE DETENTION PLACEMENT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SIX BEDS SECURED FOR US WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL BEDS IF NEED BE. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, WE'RE GOING TO 1683. AND WE GOT THE NEXT FEW WITH DAN DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. 1683 WOULD BE APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, SPECIFICALLY, INSPECTIONS. WELLS. ADVISEMENT ON ON WELLS AND WATER. BELIEVE WE ARE THE REGULATORY AGENCY FOR THIS. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IS DAN HERE? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? HEALTH DEPARTMENT AGAIN 1650. THIS IS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THIS HAD TO DO WITH RABIES. AND DAN SPOKE ABOUT RABIES IN THE CLINICS THAT ARE CONDUCTED THROUGH THE YEAR. HE SAID 3 TO 6, IT'S A TWO YEAR EXTENSION. WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST. DAN'S NOT HERE. I'M GOING TO MAKE THE REQUEST. OH, DAN, I'M SORRY, CAN I DO HAVE A REQUEST? I'D LIKE TO KNOW LAST YEAR WHERE THE RABIES CLINICS WERE HELD AND WHEN, WHERE AND WHEN I COULD GET THAT INFORMATION. BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHERE THEY WERE. GO AHEAD. OH, YEAH. GO AHEAD. KENNEDY CENTER IN ROME. FIRE DEPARTMENT. ONE IN VIENNA, I BELIEVE, AT THE DPW GARAGE. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE ONES. OKAY, MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION. IF YOU COULD STAND. TAKE THE MIC, PLEASE. AGAIN, WE'RE ON 1650. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO A GRANT AGREEMENT AND HAS TO DO WITH RABIES. HUMANE SOCIETIES, THEY PARTICIPATE. DO THEY ASSIST US WITH RABIES? NO. WELL, NOT NOT WITH RABIES VACCINATION CLINICS. WE DO WE DO HAVE VETERINARIANS THAT ASSIST US, BUT NONE OF THEM ARE. THEY MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETIES, BUT NOT DIRECTLY. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PRACTICES, BUT THEY SPECIFICALLY HAVE NOT IN THE PAST DONE RABIES CLINICS TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. NOT IN RECENT YEARS. NO. I'M GOOD. THANKS, DAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. LET'S GO TO 1746. SUPPLEMENTAL [00:05:03] APPROPRIATION OF $53,302 TO 40 1040 12.495 FOR TEN OTHER EXPENSES. VAPE DISPOSAL FEES, HEALTH DEPARTMENT. AND AGAIN, DAN SPOKE ON THIS LAST WEEK. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. GO AHEAD TIM. THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PERHAPS PUT A ALMOST LIKE A DEPOSIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THESE VAPES, SOME OF THIS MONEY BACK, PERHAPS RECOUP SOME OF IT ALMOST LIKE A CAN BOTTLE CHARGE. DAN, I KNOW YOU SPOKE ON AN ISSUE OF RECOUP, AND I THINK TIM RAISED THE QUESTION LAST WEEK ABOUT WHETHER BUSINESSES ARE ARE HELPING TO FUND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH DISPOSAL. COULD YOU ELABORATE AND MAYBE ANSWER TIM'S QUESTION ON THAT? WELL, THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE ATTEMPT TO RECOVER MONIES. BUT MANY TIMES, ONCE WE SEIZE THE VAPES, THE BUSINESS DISAPPEARS, SO TO SPEAK. THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS AND LIKELY LEAVE THE AREA. THE MONIES FROM THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FINES ARE. BUT IF WE CANNOT CONNECT WITH THE. OH, IT DOES. YES. WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH IS ALMOST LIKE. WHEN YOU GO INSIDE THE STORE, YOU'RE GETTING HELP, RIGHT? 16 BOTTLES. HOW MUCH IS THAT, STEVE? THE DEPOSIT. THERE YOU GO. SO THE STATE INITIATIVE. ONLY THE STATE CAN PUT THAT TAX ON FOR A REDEEMING. IT'S A CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH. THEY CALL IT REDEEMING. CAN WE CALL IT. OH. CAN WE, CAN WE DO THIS? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO THINK ABOUT IT. BETWEEN FAST FOOD WRAPPERS, CIGARETTE BUTTS, IT'S LIKE THAT'S THE MOST LITTERED STUFF OUT THERE. AND THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH PICKING THESE THINGS UP AND TAKING THESE THINGS OFF THE STREETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A WAY TO RECOUP SOME OF THOSE COSTS BY PREEMPTIVELY CHARGING THEM FOR A SMALL FEE? THAT WOULD BE WHERE BOTTLES ARE. THAT GOES ON IN SUPPLIER, NOT ON VENDOR. YEAH. HERE IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE ARE ENTITIES SELLING VAPES ILLEGALLY SO THEY DON'T OBTAIN THE VAPES OFTENTIMES THROUGH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHOLESALERS OR ANYTHING. THEY'LL OBTAIN THEM OFF THE INTERNET. SO THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS I HATE TO SAY THE ONES THAT ARE LEGAL. YEAH. NO THAT'S A GOOD POINT. NO, THAT THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY. THE ONES THAT ARE ARE ARE LEGAL, THOUGH. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH THEM AS AN ENTITY BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE ILLEGAL VAPES. BUT IT WOULD BE A WAY IF THE COUNTY COULD RECOUP THAT MONEY TO FOR DISPOSAL. IT WOULD HELP, THERE'S NO QUESTION. 53,000 IS NOT A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND IT'S PROBABLY INCREASING PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT, REALLY. I THINK THIS WELL, GOING FORWARD WE WON'T BE RETAINING THEM AS LONG WE KEPT THEM LONGER DURING THE PAST YEAR, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE PROBABLY IN THE 20 TO $30,000 A YEAR RANGE, I WOULD GUESS. GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS. MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT 53,000, I BELIEVE, AS TIM DOES IT IS SUBSTANTIAL. HOW MUCH DO WE RECOUP OUT OF THE 53,000? WELL, ABOUT IN THE 30 TO $35,000 RANGE, BUT THAT WAS BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR. SO THAT WOULD IT WON'T BE THAT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE ENTITIES THAT SELL ILLEGAL VAPES, THEY'RE DISAPPEARING VERY QUICKLY. ONCE THE VAPES ARE SEIZED, THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE FINES. THAT'S COOL. YES. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? OH I'M SORRY, BOB. SORRY I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF THE MEETING'S ON THURSDAY. CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR DISPOSAL ON THESE THINGS? OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO? SO, ACTUALLY, IT'S A HAZARDOUS WASTE FOR TWO REASONS. ONE IS BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE IN THE VAPES BECAUSE, AGAIN, THEY WEREN'T ACQUIRED IN A IN A LEGAL MANNER, SO TO SPEAK, OR THROUGH A SUPPLIER. AND TWO BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME. SO WE WORKED WITH THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY WHERE THEY WITH AN ARRANGEMENT WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO DISPOSE OF THEM THROUGH ONE OF THEIR VENDORS. AND THAT'S HOW THE THAT'S HOW THEY WERE DISPOSED OF IN THE DOLLARS. THE COST FOR THIS, WE HAD UNANTICIPATED INCOME THROUGH THE CLINIC, THROUGH VACCINES, VACCINE ADMINISTRATION. AND THAT WAS IN PART DUE TO OUR NEW EHR. SO THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL PURCHASE WE MADE ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND THAT'S HOW THAT'S HOW WE HAD THE DOLLARS TO COVER THIS. WE WERE FORTUNATE IN THAT REGARD. THAT WAS BUT THIS WAS THAT WAS UNANTICIPATED INCOME THAT COVERED THIS. I MEAN, DO WE TREAT THEM ALMOST LIKE MEDICAL [00:10:04] WASTE? THEY HAVE SPECIAL BAGS FOR THEM, AND THEN THEY TAKE THEM TO THEIR VENDOR AND THEY PAY THEM TO THEY INCINERATE THEM, OR I WOULD ASSUME SO I, I DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION, BUT THAT'S WHERE MOST THINGS I GO. YEAH. NO THAT'S. THANKS. YEAH. WE ALL SET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COMMITTEE? RESOLUTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AND THAT CARRIES. LET'S GO TO 1587. THIS CAME OUT OF GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AUTHORIZATION TO EXECUTE COMMERCIAL CARD PROGRAM AUTHORIZATIONS FORM WITH JP MORGAN CHASE TO ALLOW COUNTY TO PROVIDE VIRTUAL CARD SERVICES FOR PAYMENT TO PARTICIPATING VENDORS IN LIEU OF CHECKS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE SINCE. GO AHEAD. WHO'S WHO WOULD ANSWER THIS QUESTION? IT CAME OUT OF A NESSUS WHO WOULD PAY THE PROCESSING FEES. THOSE ARE ASSESSED ON THE VENDOR AND THE MERCHANTS. SO THERE'S NO THE COUNTY DOESN'T PAY ANY OF THOSE FEES. THERE'S A TRANSACTION FEE AT THE AT THE POINT OF SALE. OKAY. SO THE CONTROLLER ANTICIPATES GETTING REBATES FROM JP MORGAN CHASE EQUALING UP TO $300,000 PER YEAR. THANK YOU. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT DOES CARRY. LET'S MOVE ON TO 1838. AND THIS WOULD BE APPOINTMENT OF MARY ANGELA SCALZO AS COUNTY ATTORNEY. QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE, THIS APPOINTMENT FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU AS ALWAYS. I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCE OR AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THE NEW APPOINTMENT TO MY ADMINISTRATION AND CERTAINLY YOURS IN THIS CASE, MARY ANGELA SCALZO IS HAS BEEN APPOINTED THE ONEIDA COUNTY ATTORNEY. MARY ANGELA BRINGS WITH HER HAS BEEN WITH US. HE'S BEEN WITH THIS COUNTY GOVERNMENT FOR JUST OVER. DID WE HIT 20TH AUGUST 30TH? AUGUST 30TH WILL HIT 20 YEARS. SHE HAS SERVED IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. SHE HAS SERVED IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SHE HAS SERVED AS CHIEF COUNSEL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, OR DSS, FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, HAS JUST AN OUTSTANDING RESUME AND OUTSTANDING DEMEANOR AS WORKED ON ALL ASPECTS OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT IN ALL HER CAPACITY. SO SHE'S, YOU KNOW, GOT A JUST A GREAT BACKGROUND ON ALL THAT WE DO HERE. AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN HER SHORT COUPLE OF WEEKS HAS HAS SHOWN THAT AND WILL, YOU KNOW, WILL CONTINUE TO SHINE AND SERVE US WELL AS, AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. SO I WANT TO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IN THIS IN THIS APPOINTMENT, YOU KNOW, OFFER, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, GREAT ADMIRATION FOR HER WORK. AND THAT'S WHY HER SELECTION FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? THANK YOU. LET'S VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION AGAIN. THIS IS RESOLUTION 1838 APPOINTMENT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT DOES CARRY MOVE ON TO 17. MR. HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE. I INTERRUPT YOU BEFORE HE LEAVES THE ROOM. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S HIS BIRTHDAY TODAY, SO I WISH EVERYBODY WOULD JOIN IN WITH ME SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO. YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR TONY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. THERE YOU GO. HOW MANY CANDLES ON THE CAKE? JERRY, I. MOVING ON. 1777 MOHAWK VALLEY EDGE. APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROWTH ENTERPRISES CORPORATION. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET AGAIN? 1777 SEAN IS HERE TODAY. QUESTIONS? LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OH, [00:15:05] GO AHEAD. I THINK ON THE DOCKET IT SAID 100,000. AND THEN THIS IS 50,000. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE DOCKET BEFORE ME HERE. MR. GEORGE. DO YOU MEAN DO YOU MEAN THE SUMMARY ON YOUR ON YOUR AGENDA THERE. YEAH. WHEN WE INITIALLY WROTE THE CONTRACT IT WAS 50,000 PER YEAR. SO THE IT'S FOR TWO YEARS. SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A DISCREPANCY. IT'S 100 SHOW THE TERM ON THAT. OR JUST. YEP. EXACTLY 50 FOR 20 2550 FOR 2026. SO A TOTAL OF 100 GRAND. A YEAR ON WHEN YOU GET THESE THINGS. YEAH. WELL THERE YOU GO. OKAY. YEP. GEORGE OKAY. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. LET'S MOVE ON TO 1799. THIS IS APPROVAL OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY OF ONEIDA, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND MARK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE, ADJUNCT AND PART TIME ASSOCIATION. RANDY COVERED THIS LAST WEEK. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR RANDY ON THIS? FOR NBCC STAFF? NO QUESTIONS. KEITH, YOU ALL SET? GOOD. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THAT DOES CARRY. LET'S MOVE ON TO 1800 NBCC APPROVAL OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY OF ONEIDA, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF MARK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE, MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND THE ASSOCIATION OF MOHAWK VALLEY ADMINISTRATORS. QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT DOES CARRY. AND THE DCC AGAIN, 1786 APPROVAL OF GRANT AGREEMENT. EXCUSE ME. GRANT DISBURSEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, NEW YORK STATE URBAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE ON THIS. SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT DOES CARRY. 1673 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE. APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS OFFICE OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND BOONVILLE FAIR ASSOCIATION. THIS IS THE ONE FOR THE YOUTH DAY AT THE COUNTY FAIR. I BELIEVE IT WAS HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL. AND THIS IS $20,000. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. ANYBODY? QUESTIONS? LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES MOVE ON AGAIN. COUNTY EXECUTIVE. AND THIS IS APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS OFFICE OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOONVILLE FAIR ASSOCIATION. THIS IS 25 K ALLOTMENT. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. ANYBODY. LET'S CALL THE VOTE ON 1671. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO PLANNING. THIS WOULD BE 1810. THIS IS GRANT OF EASEMENTS THROUGH PROPERTY OWNED BY ONEIDA COUNTY TO NIAGARA MOHAWK POWER CORPORATION AND VERIZON NEW YORK. INCORPORATED. AND I BELIEVE JAMES TOUCHED UPON THIS ONE, 1810 RESOLUTION QUESTIONS. WHAT DO WE HAVE HAS TO DO WITH. INSTALLING SPEAKERS FOR CHARGING STATIONS? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. AND THAT CARRIES. NOW WE HAVE WATER POLLUTION THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS. CARL'S DOMAIN. THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE 1746 1747. APPROVAL TO PURCHASE 7.2 ACRE PARCEL. TOWN OF WHITESTOWN. APPROVAL TO PURCHASE A 4.2 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF THE 11.4 ACRE PARCEL OF TAX ID 305.01519, IN THE VILLAGE OF YORKVILLE FROM THE WHITESTOWN ASSOCIATION OF AMERICAN VETS OF WORLD WAR TWO, INC. THERE WERE QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL, WHERE IT IS, AND CARL DIDN'T ANSWER THOSE [00:20:02] QUESTIONS. BUT DOES THIS COMMITTEE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. TIM, DID YOU GET THE BAR THROWN IN YET? NO, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A MONEY MAKER. I'M GOING TO VOTE THIS DOWN THEN. NO BAR, NO PAVILION. WE GOT LAND. BASICALLY. WHAT? WE'RE TAKING THE LAND. WE'RE LEAVING THE BAR AND THE BALL FIELD PAVILION. IT'S A MISTAKE, TIM, ON THIS ONE. WE ALL SET? ALL SET. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. CARL. WE'LL GET ANOTHER ONE. AUTHORIZATION FOR ANOTHER COUNTY TO APPLY FOR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT ACT GRANT. AND COMPLETE CORRESPONDING CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND APPLICATION FOR PROPOSED ULTRAVIOLET DISINFECTION PROJECT AT THE WATER POLLUTION CONTROL PLAN. QUESTIONS FOR CARL ON THIS ISSUE. THIS RESOLUTION, I SHOULD SAY, SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOVE ON TO 1703 WATER POLLUTION AUTHORIZATION TO FILE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING APPLICATIONS WITH NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION THROUGH THE WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT GRANT PROGRAM. QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE. SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. NO OPPOSITION THAT CARRIES PUBLIC WORKS. MOVE ON TO PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. IN 1553. THIS IS APPROVAL OF A CONSULTANT SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND DELTA ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, SURVEYORS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. AGAIN, MATT WAS HERE FOR COMMITTEE. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON 1553, SINCE WE DO NOT. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. NO OPPOSITION IN THAT CARRIES PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN. RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE BOARD OF THE COUNTY LEGISLATORS AS LEAD AGENCY RESPONSIBLE FOR STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT FOR THE CORNELL COOPERATIVE EXTENSION ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS PROJECT, AND DETERMINING THAT SUCH PROJECT IS AN UNLISTED ACTION WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. ANY STATEMENTS FROM THIS COMMITTEE? NO. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. LET'S MOVE ON TO PUBLIC WORKS. PUBLIC WORKS, I SHOULD SAY THIS IS 1793 DESIGNATION OF THE BOARD OF LEGISLATORS OF THE COUNTY OF ONEIDA AS LEAD AGENCY RESPONSIBLE FOR STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW SEEKER FOR THE MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE. SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BUILDING PROJECT. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. GO AHEAD. SINCE WE'RE THE LEAD AGENCY AND I'M MORE OR LESS CONSIDERING WHEN WE GET INTO THE TRIANGLE AND STUFF, COULD WE BE JUST LOOPED IN? MATT, ON ANY CORRESPONDENCE THAT GOES ON IN REGARDS TO THE SEEKER REQUEST? SO THIS IS FOR SPECIFICALLY THE MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE SCIENCE AND TECH BUILDING, I KNOW, YEAH, I WAS SAYING FOR THE TRIANGLE DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S I UNDERSTAND WHY THE BOARD OF LEGISLATORS IS DESIGNATED AS AN ELECTED BODY, BUT WE NEVER SEE ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN TO SATISFY THE SEEKER REQUEST. OKAY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MOON BATS OR WHATEVER THE HELL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. YEAH, THE BIRD THAT WE'RE OKAY. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO, GEORGE, WHEN WE FIRST GET A PROJECT GOING, THERE'S COMPLETION. WHAT'S CALLED A SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM. IT HAS 1 OR 3 PARTS, DEPENDING ON HOW BIG THE PROJECT IS. WHEN WE GET THAT FORM, I'M SURE WE COULD SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD AT THAT POINT. SO YOU CAN START LOOKING THE ENVIRONMENTAL BE INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS. WE ALL SET? YEP. GEORGE YOU'RE GOOD. LET'S CALL THE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. OPPOSED. THIS PASSES. LET'S MOVE ON. THIS IS APPOINTMENT OF EDWARD SMITH AS DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS, DIVISION OF ENGINEERING AT GRADE 48 M STEP FIVE. AND MATT EXPLAINED THE NEED PERTAINING TO THIS POSITION. IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A VERY LONG, LONG TIME, UNABLE TO REALLY RECRUIT WITH THE PAST SALARY. PARAPHRASING WHAT MATT WAS TALKING ABOUT MY ACCURATE THERE, THAT'S PRETTY [00:25:03] MUCH IT. IT'S IMPORTANT. TYPICALLY IN THE HOPPER WE HAVE 20 MILLION WORTH OF CAPITAL PROJECTS ONGOING, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY WITH EXPERTISE WITH LIABILITY. SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THIS APPOINTMENT. GO AHEAD. IS HE HERE TODAY. HE'S NOT. NO. CAN YOU BRING HIM TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING? SURE. SO WE CAN MEET HIM? YES. YEAH, HE'LL BE AT THE NEXT ONE. PENDING THIS VOTE. HE OR TODAY'S VOTE. HE'LL START MONDAY. SO. OKAY, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? WORDSMITH. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HIM. RIGHT. NEXT COMMITTEE. OKAY, 1508. LET'S MOVE ON TO 1508. AND THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC PUBLIC SAFETY, EMERGENCY SERVICES. THE FIRST ONE 1508 IS APPROVAL OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK, THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF HOMELAND SECURITY, EMERGENCY SERVICES AND ESTABLISHMENT OF CAPITAL PROJECT H 145 EMERGENCY SERVICES GRANT AGREEMENT. RADIO EQUIPMENT. IS ANYBODY? WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. I BASICALLY DAN, I GOT A STATEMENT TO SAY ABOUT THE WHOLE WELL, WHY DON'T YOU STEP UP THERE? I BELIEVE YOU'RE STEPPING IN AT THIS POINT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT YOU UP ON THIS. THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE. CULPABLE RADIO INTEROPERABILITY NOW, SPECIFICALLY TO THE RADIOS TO MY CONCERN IS HAS BEEN VERY PROBLEMATIC TO BE NICE ABOUT IT. WE PURCHASED FROM MOTOROLA TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE FIRST ROUND OF RADIOS, A BIG ISSUE WITH THE VOLUNTEER FIRE SERVICE AND THE PAID SERVICE WAS THE ROLLOUT OF THE RADIOS AND HOW MANY THEY WERE GOING TO GET AND WHAT THEY COULD PAY FOR ADDITIONAL RADIOS. THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH MOTOROLA. AM I CORRECT TO SAY THAT THE RADIOS EARLY? THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE. I'M SPEAKING OF. YEAH. SO I BELIEVE THAT THEY WHAT THEY HOW THEY SAID IT WAS GOING TO LOOK ON THE MAP AND HOW IT REALLY LOOKS ON THE MAP ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AS FAR AS BEING OPERABLE IN IMPROVING. YEAH, THERE'S EVERYTHING'S OPERABLE AND IT'S BUT EVERYTHING HAS A DEAD SPOT. THERE'S EVEN DEAD SPOTS IN THE VILLAGE OF WHITESBORO. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT BASED ON TOPOGRAPHY, SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND OTTER LAKE BOONVILLE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. MY MAIN CONCERN IS WE'RE GOING BACK TO MOTOROLA BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY PLAYER IN TOWN. THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER OPTION WE HAVE. YES, FOR THESE PARTICULAR RADIOS. AND I'LL TELL YOU, FOR THESE RADIOS THAT WERE LEASING, BECAUSE PART OF THIS GRANT PAYS FOR THE LEASE FOR SEVEN MORE YEARS. IT'S 650,000 A YEAR. IT'S FOR THOSE NEW RADIOS THAT ARE ALSO CELLULAR TWO AND EVEN ORISKANY FALLS, WHICH WAS HONESTLY ONE OF THE BIGGER, IF I CAN SAY, PICTURES, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE COVERAGE. THEY, THEY LOVE THEM. THEY, THEY THE DEAD SPOTS ARE FOR THE MOST PART GONE. SO THEY, THEY REALLY ARE WORKING OUT WELL. THE SECOND ROLLOUT OF THE SECOND ROLLOUT OF THE FIVE. YES, THEY COST MORE MONEY QUITE A BIT MORE, QUITE A BIT MORE, QUITE A BIT MORE. YEP. ANY OTHER CONCERNING AREAS IS THE SAME OTTER LAKE AND UP IN THE NORTH COUNTRY AGAIN, ANYBODY THAT HAS THEM AND ALMOST EVERYBODY HAS THEM EXCEPT FOR THERE'S TWO THAT DON'T WESTERN AND FLOYD, EVERYBODY THAT HAS THEM IS JUST SPEAKS VOLUMES OF PRAISE ABOUT THEM AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEM. I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY WESTERN BECAUSE OF RESISTANCE TO PLAIN LANGUAGE. FLOYD. SAME SAME REASON, SAME REASON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE JUST THOUGHT IF THEY'RE NOT LISTENING TO THE COUNTY'S POLICY AND PROCEDURE, WHY DOES THE COUNTY WANT TO GIVE THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF RADIOS? QUESTIONS. IS OTTER LAKE BEEN FIXED? THEY HAD A PROBLEM UP IN OTTER LAKE YEARS BACK. THAT'S BEEN FIXED. IT'S BEEN HE'S. YEAH. THE CHIEF HAS NO COMPLAINTS RIGHT NOW. GREAT. YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS PERTAIN DAN THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. THIS IS 1508. THIS IS THE GRANT EMERGENCY SERVICES. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO 1679. THIS WOULD BE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE APPROVAL OF GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES. THE DA WAS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT. OH, OKAY. TODD, YOU WERE HERE. YOU ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS EXPLAINED. THIS IS CARP. WE'VE [00:30:06] DONE CARP BEFORE IN THE PAST. AND DO YOU WANT TO REITERATE WHAT THE MONEY'S GOING TO GO FOR THE STAFF. YES. SO THE MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO THE SALARIES OF TWO FULL TIME INVESTIGATORS AND ONE PART TIME INVESTIGATOR IN OUR OFFICE. I'M GOOD. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE ON THIS? LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. LET'S MOVE ON TO 1404. THIS APPROVAL OF GRANT OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE JOHN F FINN INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC SAFET, AND I BELIEVE YOU EXPLAINED THIS IS A NEW GRANT. YES, IT'S A NEW GRANT. WE RECEIVED FUNDS FOR OUR OFFICE SPECIFICALLY, BUT ALSO THERE IS A STRIVE COORDINATOR POSITION AND A STRIVE CRIME ANALYST POSITION THAT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED. WE HAVE WE WILL FUND IT BY WAY OF REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE COUNTY. HOWEVER, JOHN FINN IS THEIR EMPLOYER, SO THERE'S NO NEW POSITIONS THAT HAD TO BE CREATED THROUGH THE COUNTY FOR THIS QUESTION FROM THE COMMITTEE ON THIS. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT. THAT PASSES. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. 1781 APPROVAL OF FOOD SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND TRINITY SERVICES GROUP INC. AND AGAIN, THIS IS PUBLIC SAFETY THROUGH COLLINS COMMITTEE. AND THE SHERIFF WAS HERE. QUESTIONS ABOUT TRINITY BEEN DOING THIS CONTRACT AND. IT LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE ISSUE THAT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO ONEIDA COUNTY, WHERE OUR MEALS ARE. 238 SHERIFF KOSHER MEALS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE AT $6. AND QUITE HONESTLY, THIS IN CERTAIN EXTENT IN STATE FACILITIES WAS WAS A GAME PLAYED BY INMATES TO CERTAIN EXTENT. STILL IS. IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN CORRECTIONS AND IT'S STILL ONGOING. THEY LIKE A KOSHER MEAL BECAUSE THEY DEEM IT BETTER, NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH IN THE JEWISH FAITH. SO OBVIOUSLY THE PRICE IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH A RABBI AS OF I THINK WE'VE IMPROVED A LITTLE BIT, BUT AS OF PROBABLY A MONTH AGO, WE WERE DOING THE SAME AMOUNT OF KOSHER MEALS AS THE ROCKLAND COUNTY JAIL IS, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN US. BUT WE HAVE TO. YEAH, WE'RE CLAMPING DOWN ON IT, BUT IT'S A PROBLEM STATEWIDE. SOMEONE OBVIOUSLY CLAIMS A CHANGE IN RELIGION PRACTICES. WE HAVE TO HONOR THAT UNTIL WE CAN BRING A CONSULTANT INTO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WRONG TERMS AND, YOU KNOW, OFFEND ANYBODY. BUT WE HAVE A CRITERIA THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED IS PART OF THE COST, THE PREPARATION, PREPARATION. AND IT'S A DIFFERENT MENU. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AS A HIGHER QUALITY MENU THAN THE REGULAR MENU. THAT'S A STRUGGLE THAT LIKE I SAID, AS YOU SAID, IT'S ACROSS THE STATE. EVERYBODY'S DEALING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. ANY QUESTIONS? GEORGE, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THIS? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THIS? WELL, I'M JUST STILL WONDERING WHY THE STATE OF NEW YORK CAN'T BE COMPETITIVE. IN THEIR FOOD CHILL CENTER. THE QUICK CHILL IS SPEAKING OF ON MOHAWK, RIGHT? WE USED TO DO QUICK CHILL PRIOR TO TRINITY. YEAH, THEY DID IT. EVERY TIME THIS COMES UP. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY BID WHEN IT GOES OUT TO BID. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, I DON'T KNOW, DON'T KNOW. NO. YEAH. IT'S AMAZING BECAUSE MOST OF THE PRODUCTION LINE IS INMATES. AND YOU WOULD DEEM THAT THE INMATES AT QUICK CHILL AND MOHAWK CORRECTIONAL FACILITY WOULD COME IN WITH A LOWER PRICE WITH TRINITY. TRINITY HAS NEARLY ALL THE COUNTY JAILS IN THE STATE, AND THEY ALSO OBVIOUSLY THE REASON THEIR PRICES ARE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY USED TO BE, BUT THEY ARE LOW BECAUSE INMATE LABOR IS USED IN EVERYTHING BUT THE ACTUAL FOOD PREPARATION. SO ALL THE PACKAGING, THE LOADING, THE UNLOADING, THE MANUAL LABOR, THE CLEANING, THAT'S ALL DONE BY INMATE. THAT'S WHY THEY CAN THEY CAN COME IN WITH SUCH A LOW. DOES TRINITY. ABSOLUTELY. OH YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. YEP. ONE FOLLOW UP. YOU CAME UP WITH AN AVERAGE POPULATION OF 298. HOW DID YOU ARRIVE? WELL WE JUST THEY JUST TOOK A HISTORICAL NUMBER. BUT WE ARE OBVIOUSLY ABOVE THAT RIGHT NOW, MAINLY BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE STATE OF NEW YORK IS NOT TAKING STATE REDDIES. WELL, THEY ARE TAKING THEM, BUT SLOWLY, TYPICALLY A STATE. WHEN A PERSON IS SENTENCED TO STATE PRISON, THEY HAVE TEN DAYS TO TAKE THEM FROM OUR CUSTODY. ANYTHING OVER TEN DAYS, WE CAN BUILD THE STATE $100 A DAY. THAT'S IN LEGISLATION. I CAN'T CHANGE THAT PRICE. THAT'S STATE LAW, RIGHT? IN CORRECTION LAW, THE $100 PER DAY. BUT SINCE THE STRIKE, I [00:35:06] THINK WE STATEWIDE WE WERE AT ABOUT 2500 STATE INMATES WERE BEING HELD IN COUNTY JAILS ACROSS ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE. BUT LUCKILY, BECAUSE OF OUR CHIEF DEPUTY HAVING SIGNIFICANT CONTACTS WITHIN THE STATE SYSTEM, WE'RE ABLE TO START MOVING THEM AT A, AT A, AT A I MEAN, CERTAINLY NOT QUICK ENOUGH FOR US, BUT WE'RE WE'RE AHEAD OF JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE AS FAR AS GETTING THE STATE READIES OUT OF OUR CUSTODY FINALLY, BECAUSE IN THE STATE HAS NO PROBLEM PAYING THE $100 A DAY. BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE POINT. THE POINT IS OUR POPULATION. IF YOU LOOK TODAY, WE'RE AT 330 ISH, PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THAT 330 RANGE. YEAH. OH, YEAH. BETWEEN PAROLE VIOLATORS AND STATE REDDIES, THAT'S WHAT'S THAT'S WHAT PUTTING A BIG BURDEN ON US RIGHT NOW. IT HAS BEEN PAYING BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S WELL THEY PAY. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF THEM PAYING. THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE ASKED FOR AN INCREASE. BUT IT'S THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND WHEN I SAY WE, THE SHERIFFS ACROSS NEW YORK HAVE ASKED FOR AN INCREASE, BUT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT IN CORRECTIONS LAW, THE $100 A DAY, THAT WAS THE RATE THAT WAS ESTABLISHED, I THINK, IN THE MID 1980S, BUT NEVER REALLY BEEN AN ISSUE FOR US. BUT THE STRIKE IS WHAT CAUSED THE ISSUE. SO IT WOULDN'T BE TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO KEEP THESE STATE READIES AS LONG AS POSSIBLE AND NOT ASKING THEM TO, TO TAKE THEM. WELL, TYPICALLY THEY'RE OUR MOST DIFFICULT INMATES, OKAY. WHETHER IT BE ASSAULTIVE, NON-COMPLIANT WITH RULES AND REGULATIONS IN THE FACILITY, WHEN SOMEONE IS SENTENCED TO A LONG TERM, THEY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT THAT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO THEM. IF SOMEONE'S BEEN SENTENCED TO 25 YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE THEM WITH A MISDEMEANOR. AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S SO THE QUICKER WE CAN GET THEM OUT OF OUR CUSTODY, THE SAFER IT IS FOR OUR PEOPLE INSIDE THE FACILITY. SO THANK YOU. YEP. LET'S VOTE ON THIS. THIS IS SEVEN. OH GO AHEAD. ARE THEY MIXED WITH THE REST OF YOUR POPULATION OR DO WE KEEP THEM. DEPENDS ON THE IT DEPENDS ON THEIR THEIR STATUS. SO CLASSIFICATION WILL DETERMINE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THE FACILITY. SO IF THEY MAY BE A HIGH RISK THERE MAY BE STAY AWAY ORDERS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE AWAY FROM DIFFERENT INMATES, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN A POD OF THEIR OWN. IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS, IT DEPENDS ON DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY ARE. WE HAVE PODS THAT WE OPEN JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE. NO, NO, THEY'RE ADDING TO THE NUMBER OF INMATES WE HAVE. WE'RE UTILIZING RIGHT NOW. EVERY UNIT IN THE FACILITY IS OPEN JUST BECAUSE OF THE MANDATED CLASSIFICATIONS FROM THE STATE OF NEW YORK. AND KEEP KEEP SEPARATE ORDERS THAT WE HAVE ON INMATES. WE ARE FUNCTIONING WITH EVERY, EVERY POST OPEN IN THE JAIL. SO ANYBODY ELSE ALL SET, BOB, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. LET'S MOVE ON TO THIS IS 1096 APPROVAL OF GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS SHERIFF'S OFFICE. NEW YORK STATE THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES. QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES ANOTHER ONE FOR THE SHERIFF IS 1653 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION, $11,300. 231 1031 50 4493 000 MAINTENANCE, REPAIR SERVICES. CONTRACT QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? CARRY 1698 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF 150,002 A 3110. VARIOUS SHERIFF ACCOUNTS. THIS IS AGAIN SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION. SHERIFF WAS HERE THURSDAY TO EXPLAIN THIS REQUEST AND THIS NEED QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES MOVE ON TO 1617 APPROVAL OF A CANAL DEVELOPMENT GRANT FUND GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS SHERIFF'S OFFICE. NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS CANAL CORPORATION. QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. MOVING ON TO PROBATION. THANKS, SHERIFF. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THIS IS 1225 IN. HOLLY WAS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THIS AND EXPLAIN APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT TO LEASE EQUIPMENT AND FOR RELATED SERVICES BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND BUDDY US L. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 1655 APPROVAL OF GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PROBATION. NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS DIVISION [00:40:03] OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES. RAISE THE AGE GRANT, 1655 QUESTIONS FOR HOLLY. NO QUESTIONS. EVERYBODY GOOD? LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES 18 060. THIS IS DISTRICT ATTORNEY AGAIN. APPROVAL OF THE 2024 EQUITABLE SHARING AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE UNITED STATES AMERICA, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE QUESTIONS ON 1806. SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. WE MOVE ON TO AIRPORT. 17 FOR FIVE WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO CAPITAL PROJECT H.R. 103 56 102 CAPITAL OUTLAY. GRIFFITHS AIRFIELD BUILDING 103 ROOF REPAIR AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF ONE HALF 1 MILLION TO 9990 901. 900 105. TRANSFER TO OTHER FUND. CAPITAL PROJECT FUND. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE ON THIS AIRPORT COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS THROUGH BOB'S COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION. THAT CARRIES. LET'S MOVE ON TO 1779. AIRPORT. APPROVAL OF A TASK ORDER 39 TO MASTER AGREEMENT FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND CNS ENGINEERS, INC. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS. CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES 1842. THIS WOULD BE AIRPORT AGAIN. ADVANCE APPROVAL OF GRANT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION, NEW YORK STATE URBAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, EMPIRE STATE DEVELOPMENT TRIANGLE PROJECT, 1842. QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS. IT'S CALLED A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION. THE NEXT DOCKET. THE NEXT DOCKET COMES FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, FINANCE. LOCAL LAW ESTABLISHING ESTABLISHING A REGISTRATION SYSTEM FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS AND EXTENDING THE ONEIDA COUNTY HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX TO SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS. IT'S SAD ON OUR DESK, AND NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. HEY, RICK. RICK. OKAY, SO YOU GUYS DID PASS IT LAST MONTH, BUT AFTER THE COMMISSIONER OF FINANCE DID HIS RFP, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE IN ORDER TO AWARD THAT RFP, THE DATE THAT WAS IN THERE OF OCTOBER 1ST OR WHATEVER IT IS WOULD BE IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE. SO IT HAS TO START OVER BECAUSE IT'S A LOCAL LAW. COME BACK TO WAYS AND MEANS WITH A NEW DATE OF ANDREW. IS IT JANUARY 1ST? JANUARY 1ST, 2026 IS THE EFFECTIVE DATE? YEAH. OKAY. QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD KEITH. SORRY. THANK CAME UP IN A COUPLE OF THE TOWN MUNICIPAL MEETINGS OF THE INTERACTION BETWEEN COUNTY AND IDENTIFYING THE HOTEL ROOMS. ET CETERA. WITH LOCAL LAWS AT A TOWN OR VILLAGE MIGHT BE PASSING. SO HOW DOES THAT KIND OF INTERACT WITH THE TOWNS AND MUNICIPALS WITH COUNTY? MOST BOOKINGS FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE DONE THROUGH BIG BOOKING SERVICES LIKE AIRBNB, VRBO, THE STATE LAW, WHICH WE'RE KIND OF INCORPORATING LOCALLY, REQUIRES THEM ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO SUBMIT TO THE COUNTY A LISTING OF ALL SHORT TERM RENTALS RENTED IN THAT COUNTY, INCLUDING BROKEN DOWN BY PARCEL ID NUMBER. SO WE'LL HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO SHARE WITH THE LOCALITIES WITHIN A FEW WEEKS AFTER GETTING IT FROM THE BOOKING SERVICES. SO ONCE THEY GET THAT DATA, THEY CAN THEN VALIDATE WHETHER SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE COMPLYING WITH WHATEVER LOCAL LAWS THEY MIGHT HAVE. OCCUPANCY EGRESS PLANS, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO I THINK, SARAH FROM TOURISM, I THOUGHT AT 1.2 THAT IN ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS YOU HAD SAID IN A LISTING OF HOTELS, IF YOU WILL, OR THE AIRBNBS, DOES THAT LIST CRISSCROSS WITH WHAT WHAT THE STATE IS SAYING THEN? I'M JUST CONCERNED OF HOW THE THREE LISTS END UP GETTING SHARED OR ACROSS, WHETHER IT'S TOURISM. HERE'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTY. [00:45:03] HERE'S THE TAXES WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECT, AND THEN DO THE TO MAKE THE TOWNS AND MUNICIPALS AWARE OF THAT. GENERAL INVENTORY OF THE LIST OF. YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOOK AT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIST OF, OF HOW TO PROMOTE IT AND THEN WHO YOU'RE TAXING IF SHE. SO THE WAY THAT TOURISM'S LIST WAS DONE, IT'S THROUGH A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT KIND OF SCRAPED DATA OFF THOSE BIG BOOKING SITES. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN AFTER THE FACT WAY TO GET A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S BEING BOOKED. TYPICALLY THERE'S 1100 LISTINGS IN THE COUNTY IN ANY GIVEN MONTH. 400 OF THOSE ARE DUPES. SO WE'RE OUT. SO THEY'RE LISTING ON MULTIPLE PLATFORMS LISTING ON AIRBNB. SO ONCE WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR REGISTRY ESTABLISHED, THAT WILL BE THE LIST. THERE WON'T BE ANY OTHER LISTS KEPT AT THE STATE LEVEL. PRIVATE COMPANIES CAN STILL SCRAPE THE DATA, BUT IT WON'T BE DEFINITIVE LIKE OUR LIST IS. YEAH. SO WE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO BRING OUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE. APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY. AND I PUT THAT. WE WANTED TO KNOW THAT TO TRY TO SAY. BUT THEY WOULD HANDLE EVERYTHING. THE ACTUAL REGISTRATION. ACCESS TO THAT. BUT WE CAN GET A SENSE OF HOW MANY ARE RIGHT. AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE, THAT LIST WILL BE SHARED BACK THROUGH THE MUNICIPALITIES THEN. EXACTLY. GREAT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. OTHER QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD. IT'S STILL POSSIBLE TO FLY UNDER THE RADAR. IT IS SO A BIG PART OF THE RFP THAT WE JUST CONCLUDED LAST WEEK IS HOW TO VALIDATE THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY REGISTERING WITH US AND PAYING THE TAX. SO I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD FOUR COMPANIES RESPOND TO THAT RFP. TWO OF THEM HAD REALLY STRONG ENFORCEMENT AND VALIDATION MODULES ON THEIR SOFTWARE. SO A BIG PART OF THIS IS GOING TO BE MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTING ON THE SITES ARE ACTUALLY REGISTERED WITH US, AND IF THEY AREN'T, THE STATE LAW WHICH WE'RE INCORPORATING FOR HOMEOWNERS, REQUIRES US TO GIVE THEM TWO NOTICES BEFORE WE CAN START ASSESSING FEES AND PENALTIES. IF THE BOOKING SERVICE IS LISTING PEOPLE WITHOUT REGISTERING, THEY'RE SUBJECT TO FINES A $500 PER DAY PER VIOLATION. BUT TO ACTUALLY GO AFTER THE HOMEOWNERS TAKES A LITTLE MORE PROCESS. GEORGE, YOU ALSO FOLLOW UP TO THAT. BUT IF I UNDERSTAND IT, FOR THEM, AS GEORGE IS CONCERNED, UNDER THE RADAR, HOW THEY'RE ALMOST GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SITE TO PROMOTE, HEY, YOU CAN RENT MY BUSINESS. OTHER THAN STICKING A SIGN OUT BY THE ROAD, TYPICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AN AGENCY. AND FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, YOU'RE YOU'RE SCRUBBING THOSE LISTS AND THAT WILL BE HOW YOU DETERMINE THEM, RIGHT? IF THEY WANT TO FLY SO FAR UNDER THE RADAR THAT THEY'RE NOT ADVERTISING ON THE INTERNET WHERE WE'D CATCH THEM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY MONEY. RIGHT? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AT THAT POINT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING VERY SPECIFIC, BUT UP UNTIL THIS POINT, I'VE NEVER PROMOTED. THAT'S NOT HOW IT IN, BUT CERTAIN BED AND BREAKFAST. CERTAIN AIRBNB IS REGISTERED WITH THE COUNTY. JUST LIKE THAT. BUT WHEN THIS CHANGES THAT. WE WOULD NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROMOTE. DIFFERENT TYPES. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE INCENTIVE. AND THEY DO REACH OUT SOMETIMES TO SAY THEY WANT TRAVEL GUIDES OR THEY WANT THEY WANT TO PROVIDE TO THEIR CLIENTS. SO THEY WON'T CATCH EVERYBODY. AND I DO THINK. THAT. YOU CAN APPLY IT TO THE RADAR PEOPLE TO. AT THIS POINT. YEAH, IF THEY'RE ON THOSE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT ALL YOU'RE ON THE REGISTRY, YOU'RE ON ONE OF THE APPS THAT AND WE HAVE A REGISTRY. YOU CAN'T BE ON THE APP IF YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED. IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE IT'S MORE IF THEY'RE JUST CALLING THEIR FRIENDS AND SAYING EXACTLY WHERE YOU RENT ONCE, AND THEN YOU TEXT THEM NEXT TIME AND SAY, I WANT TO BOOK WITH YOU PRIVATELY, YOU KNOW? IS THERE ANY, ANY KIND OF PROJECTIONS OF HOW MANY YOU WOULD HAVE AND WHAT KIND OF INCOME IT MIGHT GENERATE? YET IT WAS AROUND 800,000 THAT YEAH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING 726 AVERAGE MONTHLY RENTALS FOR AN ANNUAL POSSIBLE REVENUE OF $800,000. YEAH. YEAH. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ANDY, I DO HAVE A COUPLE [00:50:03] QUESTIONS. HOW DOES THIS THE SHORT TERM RENTAL WITH AIRBNB AND THE AND THE OTHERS DIFFER WHEN IT COMES TO HOTEL AND MOTEL RESIDENCY OR OCCUPANCY TAX WITH SMALL AND LARGE HOTELS AND MOTELS IT REALLY PUTS THEM ON AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD. SO SINCE 1982, THE COUNTY HAS HAD A COUNTY OCCUPANCY TAX STARTED OFF AT 2%. IN THE LAST 30 YEARS IT'S GROWN TO 5%. SO HOTELS AND MOTELS ALREADY HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF TAX AND FINANCE. THEY ALREADY HAVE TO COLLECT THAT 5% TAX, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONEIDA ENTERPRISE. CORRECT? RIGHT. THEY'RE SOVEREIGN. THEY'RE IMMUNE FROM STATE TAX. SO THEY DO HAVE AN ADVANTAGE PERTAINING TO THE 5% THAT THAT YEAH. YEAH. CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION WITH WITH THIS LAW TO THE MOTELS AND HOTELS. DO THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC. YES. SO THEY THEY REGISTER WITH TONY CARVELLI. HE ISSUES THEM A CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTALS IS THEY'LL GET A SHORT TERM. IT'LL ALL BE DIGITAL. THEY'LL GET A REGISTRATION NUMBER SO THAT THEY CAN LIST THAT ON THEIR DIGITAL BOOKINGS. NOW THEIR REGISTRATIONS. IS THERE A SPECIFIC FEE EQUAL TO AIRBNB AND THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO THE COMMISSIONER HAS AUTHORITY TO SET A FEE? I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S DECIDED YET HOW MUCH HE WANTS TO CHARGE, BUT IF HE WANTS TO CHARGE ANYTHING, ANYTHING TO THE TO THE HOMEOWNERS FOR REGISTERING FOR AIRBNB AND VRBO, THE BIG GUYS, WE ALSO HAVE AUTHORITY UNDER THIS DRAFT LOCAL LAW TO CREATE A REGISTRY FOR THEM AND TO CHARGE THEM A FEE. SO HE'S GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION. YES. SO IT'S PART OF THIS LEGISLATION WOULD GIVE ME THE AUTHORITY TO SET THE FEE. NOW, THE STATE LAW THAT WE'RE BOUND BY, UNLESS WE OPT OUT, SAYS THAT FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL HOSTS, THE FEE CAN ONLY BE AS BIG AS REQUIRED TO RUN THE SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO RECOUP ABOUT 800,000 A YEAR. YEAH, WE DEEM IT NECESSARY TO COLLECT. PARAMETERS. I DON'T KNOW THAT HE'S DECIDED THAT YET. IDEALLY, THE SYSTEM WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF IN ADDITION TO THE TAX, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT TAX HAS A STATUTORY PURPOSE, AND THE STATUTORY PURPOSE IS THE PROMOTION OF TOURISM AND ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO WE GET ABOUT $2.4 MILLION FROM THAT TAX. AFTER THIS WILL BE UP ABOVE 3 MILLION. IF YOU'RE ALSO MAKING THE SYSTEM PAY FOR ITSELF THROUGH THE REGISTRATION FEES, YOU'RE TALKING 3.2 MILLION, $3.5 MILLION A YEAR IN REVENUE THAT YOU CAN USE FOR TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. ANDY, MY POINT IS, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD NICKEL AND DIME THESE INDIVIDUALS IF WE'RE COLLECTING PERSPECTIVE OF QUITE A BIT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE ENACTING A FEE. AND I ALSO DEEM I BELIEVE THAT THIS THIS BOARD SHOULD, SHOULD SET IT. NOTHING AGAINST TONY. HE'S AN EXPERT. HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING. HE'S THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION. THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF AUTHORITY THAT GOES TO FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND NOT THIS SPECIFIC BOARD. THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY AND THAT'S A FAIR POINT. I MEAN, PART OF THE DIFFICULTY HERE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST YET. RIGHT. THE PROPOSALS THAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR ARE COMING IN ABOUT 30 TO 40 GRAND A YEAR TO BUILD AND RUN THIS SYSTEM. AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING LOCAL COSTS FOR STAFF HERE THAT HAVE TO RUN IT. SO IF YOU WERE TO DO THE MATH ON THAT, A FAIR FEE MIGHT BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3 AND $500 PER HOMEOWNER. WHETHER YOU WANT TO SHIFT THAT ALL TO THE TAX BURDEN IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION. BUT YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE STATE LAW IS SET UP, THE STATE LAW REALLY INTENDS FOR THE COST OF RUNNING THE SYSTEM TO BE PART OF THE REGISTRATION FEE PAID BY THE HOMEOWNERS. JUST BEAR IN MIND THEY'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE SHORT TERM RENTAL IN THIS COUNTY, RIGHT? SO CHARGING THEM A 5% OCCUPANCY TAX, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE, I DON'T THINK. OH, WAIT, ONE OTHER QUESTION IS. DO THEY TELL US WHERE THE WHAT THE MONEY HAS TO BE USED FOR THAT WE'RE COLLECTING? OR IS THAT OUR CHOICE STATE. SO THAT'S IN YOUR CURRENT COUNTY OCCUPANCY TAX LAW, THE ONE THAT WAS JUST AMENDED IN 2020 WHEN WE BROUGHT IN THE PURPOSES THAT SETS FORTH THE PURPOSE OF OCCUPANCY TAX AND THAT COUNTY OCCUPANCY TAX LAW SAYS FOR THE PROMOTION OF TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT THAT'S WE DECIDED, RIGHT? YES, THAT IF WE WANTED TO USE THE MONEY FOR SOMETHING, WE LEGISLATION TO DO IT STATE LEGISLATION. YEAH. AND I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON THE STATE LEGISLATION TO SEE WHETHER THERE'S ANY PREEMPTION, WHETHER WE CAN GO BROADER THAN THAT. BUT WE DID GO BROADER IN 2020. BEFORE 2020, IT WAS ONLY PROMOTION OF TOURISM. WE ADDED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE IS SOME AUTHORITY THERE, BUT I'D HAVE TO RUN THAT TO GROUND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER [00:55:08] QUESTIONS? LET'S MOVE THIS DOCKET. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION? I OPPOSED PASSES. WE GOT ONE MORE. SESSION. SALES TAX. THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL DOCKET. WE RECEIVED WE RECEIVED LATE. SO WE CAN HAVE IT PASSED AND ENACTED THIS RESOLUTION EXTENDING ADDITIONAL RATES OF TAXES ON SALES AND COMPENSATING USE OF TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY AND CERTAIN SERVICES ON OCCUPANCY OF HOTEL ROOMS AND ON AMUSEMENT CHARGES PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 29 OF TAX LAW OF NEW YORK STATE. IS IT LAST ONE? YEP. THIS IS IT. SO JUST A LITTLE HISTORY. GOVERNOR SIGNED IT FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND OR FRIDAY MORNING. AND ANDREW WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO GET IT HERE SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. IT REALLY CAN'T WAIT FOR SEPTEMBER WITH THE DEADLINES TO GET IT BACK TO THE STATE FOR THEM TO THEN IMPLEMENT IT. WE ALL SET. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE WAYS AND MEANS. SINCE THERE IS NONE. MOTION * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.