BOEING WAIVER MEANS CONVENE AND GET GOING. WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF DOCKETS, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE [00:00:07] SURE WE LEAVE A LOT OF ROOM FOR DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE UP TO [Roll Call] YOU. CAN YOU GET ROLL CALL FOR ME, PLEASE? WE GOOD? DO YOU HEAR ME SAY THAT LAST NIGHT? I SAID, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S READ THE DOCUMENTATION, SO IF IT WASN'T ANSWERED IN THERE, YOU CAN [Dockets] ANSWER THE QUESTION. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE FIRST DOCKET, WHICH IS 1578 COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND FINANCE. THIS WOULD BE A LOCAL LAW ESTABLISHING A REGISTRATION SYSTEM FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS AND EXTENDING THE ONEIDA COUNTY HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX TO SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE? GO AHEAD KEITH. JUST CURIOUS ON DEFINITION OF SHORT TERM RENTAL. IS THAT. PARALLEL TO AIRBNB TYPE ETC. SO THE PARAMETERS WOULD BE THE SAME. I BELIEVE SO, BUT I'M GOING TO DEFER TO ANDY. YES THAT'S RIGHT. THE DEFINITION IS SET FORTH BY THE STATE ENABLING LEGISLATION, REAL PROPERTY LAW SECTION 447 A. SO IT DOES COVER SHORT TERM RENTALS. THAT'S ANYTHING LESS THAN 30 DAYS. IT COVERS AIRBNBS AND VRBOS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. YEAH. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ALL SAID ON THAT. COULD EVERYONE MAKE SURE THEY THEY PUT THEIR MICS ON. SO IF YOU DO SPEAK EVERYBODY THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR YOU. GO AHEAD GEORGE GREEN IF IT'S ON ONLY. ACTUALLY MY CONCERN IS FOR MR. CAVALLI. HOW WHEN WE COLLECT THIS, NOW THAT THE TWO CITIES GET A HAVE THEIR OWN BED TAX. WE GET. I MEAN, I THINK IS THERE AN ADMIN FEE THAT FOR COLLECTION. HOW IS THE MECHANICS OF IT ALL WORK? I DON'T KNOW, MICHAEL CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS GUY BEHIND YOU. SORRY, SARAH. SORRY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE. ANTHONY. EXCUSE ME. COULD YOU COME TO THE MIC, PLEASE? THERE'S PROBABLY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WATCHING AND LISTENING TO THIS MEETING THAT AREN'T HERE, SO LET'S MAKE SURE THEY. THEY CAN HEAR YOUR WISDOM. TONY. I DON'T KNOW THAT I. WAITING TO HEAR EVERY WORD. IS IT ON NOW? THERE YOU GO. SO, YEAH, WE DO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. IT'S IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. BUDGET TO HELP COVER SOME OF THE COSTS. WE DON'T REALLY CHARGE A LOT FOR IT. I THINK IT WAS AT ONE POINT 1.5% OF THE COLLECTIONS. BUT I THINK WE SCALED THAT DOWN ONCE THE FEE WAS RAISED OR THE PERCENTAGE WAS RAISED, BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, IT WAS WE WERE COVERING, YOU KNOW, IT WAS TAKING TOO MUCH MONEY, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT UTICA OR ROME'S COLLECTION. THOSE ARE INDEPENDENT FROM US, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE. THEY'RE COLLECTING THEIR OWN CHARGE, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY TO DO WITH US. SO. WELL, WHEN YOU SAY THAT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. THE GATEKEEPER ON THE ACCOUNT. RIGHT, RIGHT. THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE ANY MORE INTERVENTIONS ONCE WE SET UP A REGISTRY. SO. YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU. IT HAS AN AIRBNB AND THOSE PEOPLE PAY, THEN THERE'S A COUNTY PORTION, RIGHT? CORRECT. THE CITY PORTION. WELL, WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING INSTEAD OF. WELL, THAT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY THE COUNTY'S PORTION TO THE COUNTY, AND THE CITY'S PORTION TO THE CITY, WHETHER IT COMES FROM AIRBNB OR WHETHER IT COMES FROM THE OWNER OF THE FACILITY. NO DIFFERENT THAN FILING THEIR FEDERAL TAX FOR INCOME TAX VERSUS THEIR STATE INCOME TAX. MY POINT IS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE INITIATING SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE ONE CHANCE TO DO IT RIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST FOR EVERYBODY TO DO? YEAH. AND GEORGE, I COULD SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT IF YOU'D LIKE. SO THE WAY OUR REGISTRY IS SET UP, YOU [00:05:03] KNOW, THE STATE MANDATES IN THIS LAW THAT WE SET UP A REGISTRY FOR THE COUNTY. IT ALSO REQUIRES, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS THAT THE BOOKING SERVICES LIKE AIRBNB, VRBO, SEND ALL RENTAL DATA TO THE COUNTY WITHIN 60 DAYS. WE THEN HAVE TO TRANSMIT THAT TO THE TOWNS AND CITIES AND VILLAGES. SO THEY COULD THEY COULD GET THE DATA THAT WAY, OR DEPENDING ON HOW THEIR LOCAL LAWS SHAPES OUT, YOU KNOW, UTICA, ROME BOTH GOT STATE ENABLING LEGISLATION FOR 3% OCCUPANCY TAXES. IF THAT LEGISLATION, WHICH HASN'T BEEN CHAPTERED YET, BY THE WAY, IT WAS JUST PASSED BY BOTH HOUSES, HASN'T BEEN SENT TO THE GOVERNOR. BUT IF THAT GETS CHAPTERED AND IF IT COVERS SHORT TERM RENTALS, THEY COULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY FOR SOME SHARING OF OUR REGISTRY DATA. IT'S ACTUALLY BUILT INTO THE LAW. SO EVERY 60 DAYS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, IT HAPPENS AUTOMATICALLY. IF THEY REQUEST IT FROM US, WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO THEM QUICKER THAN THAT. SO THERE IS A GREAT THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF SHARING WITH THE LOCALITIES BUILT INTO THE LOCAL LAW. GEORGE, YOU GOOD THINKING ABOUT IT, WHICH IS GOOD. YOU ALL SET? TONY, IF YOU COULD STAY THERE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THE LAW, WRITTEN BY NEW YORK STATE IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, GIVES US THE OPTION. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE REGISTRY IF WE'RE GOING TO OBVIOUSLY PARTAKE IN GET THE MONEY AND MAYBE TONY, I LOOKED AT THAT NUMBER, THE ESTIMATE OF $800,000 ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IN. THAT'S THE ESTIMATE. IS THAT A LITTLE HIGH? AND HOW CAN WE MAKE AN ESTIMATE OF 800,000 WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE REGISTRY NUMBERS OF AIRBNBS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. HOW'D YOU GET THAT NUMBER? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK. WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NUMBER CAME FROM ME, BUT. WHEN I, WHEN I SPOKE TO, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS DECHERT OR GRANICUS. I'M, I SPOKE WITH THEM AT ONE OF THE NECEC CONFERENCES. THEY HAD SAID TO ME THERE WAS ABOUT 800 STRS IN ONEIDA COUNTY. THEY SAID THAT THE AVERAGE COST. FOR THE NIGHTLY RENTAL WAS ON AVERAGE $183. SO YOU COULD DO THE MATH ON IT AND GET IF EVERY SINGLE ONE WAS FILLED 365 DAYS, YOU COULD DO THE MATH ON THAT, AND THEN YOU COULD SAY, WELL, WHAT IS THE AVERAGE AVERAGE STAY? OR IN OTHER WORDS, HOW OFTEN DO THEY? THAT'S THE BIG UNKNOWN, BY THE WAY. SO IT'S LIKE I'M SURE SOME PEOPLE RUN RENT THEIR PLACES OUT FOR A MONTH AND THAT'S IT. SOME PROBABLY TURN IT INTO A BUSINESS AND ARE RENTING IT AS MUCH AS THEY CAN FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. SO YOU COULD TAKE THAT NUMBER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I THINK THAT NUMBER COMES OUT TO ABOUT 2.6 MILLION. THAT'S THE FULL NUMBER. SO I KIND OF WONDERED LIKE WHAT WAS THE OCCUPANCY? BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING TO ME, WELL, AT LEAST 40%. SO I THINK THE NUMBER COULD ACTUALLY BE AT LEAST WHAT WE'RE THINKING COULD BE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THAT $800,000 NUMBER. BUT THIS IS ALL BRAND NEW WITH NO ONE'S DONE THIS BEFORE. SO AND THE STATE LEGISLATION IS NEW. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS WORKS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED ON THIS. SO I THINK THE NUMBER COULD BE ACTUALLY A LITTLE HIGHER. APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK ON THAT. GO AHEAD GEORGE. IS THERE ANY PLACE THAT DEDICATES HOW WE USE THOSE FUNDS, OR IS IT JUST A GENERAL PERMANENT ACCOUNT? NO. THE ENABLING LEGISLATION. DETERMINES HOW YOU CAN USE THOSE FUNDS. I BELIEVE I BELIEVE YOU CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR. YES. SO OUR TOURISM OCCUPANCY TAX LAW, WHICH WAS AMENDED IN 2020, PROVIDES THAT THE OCCUPANCY TAX CAN BE USED FOR TOURISM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DIRECTLY RELATED PURPOSES. RIGHT NOW, WE GET ABOUT 2.5 MILLION A YEAR BEFORE THIS EXPANSION. 1 MILLION GOES TOWARDS TOURISM. ANOTHER MILLION IS GOING TOWARDS THOSE NEXUS CENTER. THAT LEAVES A SURPLUS OF ABOUT 500,000. SO AFTER THIS HAPPENS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES. OKAY, KEITH. GO AHEAD. THEN I'LL GO TO TIM. SIR, SARAH'S GOT A COMMENT FROM US. IN THE COUNTY. WE RECEIVED A GRANT DOLLARS. EXCUSE ME. SARAH, COULD YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE? AGAIN, THERE'S [00:10:06] THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WATCHING. WE. IN 2023, WE RECEIVED EDA FUNDING. AND IT'S A GRANT FOR THE CENTRAL NEW YORK VACATION REGION MANAGED BY ONEIDA COUNTY TOURISM. WHEN THAT THAT WAS ALL WRITTEN PRIOR TO ME BECOMING PRESIDENT. SO THE WHOLE WAY THAT BUDGET WAS GOING TO GET SPENT. SO WE PURCHASED ZYDECO, WHICH WE HAD VERY HIGH HOPES FOR. IT WAS TO GIVE US A LOT OF DATA ON WHO OUR VISITORS ARE, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, HOW MUCH DO THEY SPEND, WHERE DO THEY VISIT? WE HAVEN'T HAD THE BEST LUCK WITH ZYDECO. IT'S BEEN REALLY HARD TO TRACK CERTAIN TYPES OF DATA. HOWEVER, EARLIER THIS YEAR WE HAD EXCESS FUNDS THAT COULDN'T BE SPENT THE WAY THAT THEY WERE INITIALLY SUPPOSED TO BE ALLOCATED. SO WE WERE ABLE TO SIGN ON WITH A COMPANY CALLED ROVE, AND THEY THEY FOCUS IN SHORT TERM RENTAL DATA, VISA SPENDING, TOURISM ANALYTICS, THAT KIND OF DATA. WE ACTUALLY JUST RECEIVED AN IIHF REPORT THAT WE HAD THEM RUN BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS IS A NEW RELATIONSHIP, BUT THAT 800,000 CAME FROM THEM. AS SOON AS WE SIGNED ON, WE SAID WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL DATA IS APPROXIMATELY, AND IT CAME THROUGH WITH THAT. AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THE IIHF REPORT WE JUST GOT LAST WEEK ALSO, BUT IT DID SHOW THE IMPACT OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WHEN THEY CAME FOR IIHF, ALSO STAYED IN SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO IT WAS JUST A LOT OF DOLLARS THAT WERE KIND OF LEFT ON THE TABLE. BUT YEAH, WE CAN SHARE ALL OF THOSE. SO YEAH. GOT IT. NOW I BELIEVE IN NEW YORK STATE. ANDREW, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO TELL US THIS. THE SHORT TERM LONG TERM RENTAL LINE IS A MONTH. THAT'S RIGHT. LESS THAN 30 DAYS. LESS THAN 30 DAYS. SO YOU'RE PAYING TAX ON ANYTHING LESS THAN A MONTH. SO NOW LIKE ONE OF THE SITES SAY FURNISHED FINDER IS ONE THAT'S VERY POPULAR AMONGST VISITING NURSES. FOR EXAMPLE, WILL COME IN FOR THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS. WHAT HAVE YOU DO WE STILL TAKE THE MONEY IN ON THAT EVEN AFTER IT'S EVEN THOUGH IT'S LONGER THAN A ONE MONTH RENTAL PERIOD. WE DON'T. SO ONCE IT'S ONCE WE'RE TIED DIRECTLY INTO THE SALES TAX PORTION OF IT AND THAT'S IT. CORRECT? YES. SO AFTER 30 DAYS THEY'RE CONSIDERED A PERMANENT RESIDENT UNDER THIS REAL PROPERTY LAWS. ARTICLE 12 D SO WE CAN'T COLLECT TAX ON STAYS LONGER THAN 30 DAYS. OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. WE ALL SET. LET'S CALL A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED. SAY THAT CARRIES. LET'S MOVE ON TO DOCKET NUMBER TWO. THIS WOULD BE 1595. BUDGET TRANSFER SPECIFIED AMOUNTS TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTAL APPROPRIATION ACCOUNTS AS REQUIRED UNDER GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES. G, P, AND IT WAS A PRETTY EXTENSIVE LIST, SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY WE DO DURING THE YEAR. AND THERE WERE SOME NOT ONLY EXTENSIVE LISTS, BUT SOME LARGE TRANSFERS. SO HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT. I WILL BE PUTTING A REQUEST FOR EXPLANATIONS ON SEVERAL OF THOSE LINE ITEMS, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND MORE FULLY, AND I'LL SHARE THAT WITH THIS COMMITTEE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. LET'S GO TO 1335 INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. IT'S APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND JDI COMPUTER STAFFING INC. QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE ON THAT DOCKET. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY 1381 DOCKET. THIS IS APPROVAL OF ADDITIONAL LICENSES UNDER ENTERPRISE ENROLLMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND MICROSOFT CORPORATION, THROUGH ITS AUTHORIZED RESELLER, DELL MARKETING, L.P. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE ON THIS DOCKET. SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. WE MOVE ON TO 20, 25 1612 COUNTY ATTORNEY'S APPROVAL OF AN EXTENSION OF BOARD OF LEGISLATORS APPROVAL GRANT UNDER RESOLUTION 330 OF 2022 REGARDING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF LAW AND WEST PUBLISHING CORPORATION. QUESTION. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND MAYBE IT WAS ANSWERED YESTERDAY IS NOT ABLE TO MAKE YESTERDAY'S MEETING. [00:15:03] IT'S A 36 MONTH TERM. ANDY, MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN. IT STARTED IN 22 AND IT ENDS IN 25. HOW HOW DID THAT WORK? THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE WAY THESE SUBSCRIPTION AGREEMENTS WORK IS THERE'S SOME LAG BETWEEN THE TIME WE GOT BOARD AUTHORITY TO ENTER INTO THIS THREE YEAR CONTRACT. AND WHEN WEST PUBLISHING ACTUALLY EXECUTED THE CONTRACT ON THEIR END. SO THAT CONTRACT DIDN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL NOVEMBER OF 2022 WHEN THEY SIGNED. SO OUR THREE YEARS STARTED. THEN AS WE'RE COMING UP TO RENEW THE CONTRACT, WE REALIZED WE ONLY HAD AUTHORITY TO GO BACK TO AUGUST. SO WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO GIVE US SOME GRACE THERE AND EXTEND THE TERM OF THAT CONTRACT BY THREE MONTHS. WE DIDN'T WANT TO. WE DON'T WANT TO BE UNDER CONTRACT WITH WEST WITHOUT HAVING BOARD AUTHORITY FOR THOSE THREE MONTHS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. LET'S MOVE ON TO 1611. THIS WOULD BE APPROVAL OF THE BIDS OFFERED AT MAY 17TH, 2025. PROPERTY AUCTION. GO AHEAD GEORGE. SO. ONE OF THESE OFFERS STANDS RIGHT NOW. THAT'S NUMBER 42. VERNON GERALD. IT'S LIKE 150,000. TAX CODE WAS 22,000. I NEVER SEE HIM THAT MUCH HIGHER. BID OFFERING. A BACKUP. YES. THERE'S USUALLY BACKGROUNDS TO EVERY ONE OF THESE CASES. THAT'S CORRECT. SO LADY I GUESS WAS. HE PASSED AWAY. SHE OWNED THE HOUSE. MY UNDERSTANDING AS BEST I CAN GATHER FROM INFORMATION THAT WE TRY TO DERIVE FROM THESE CASES. SHE HAD A PARTNER. THEY ALSO HAD A PLACE IN FLORIDA. PARTNER WAS NOT INTERESTED IN TRYING TO KEEP THE HOME IN CHERYL. AND THE HOUSE NEEDS WORK, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A SALVAGEABLE HOUSE IN THE CITY OF CHERYL, SO PROBABLY HIGHLY DESIRED. ALSO, REAL ESTATE VALUES ARE VERY HIGH NOW, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW. SO IT SEEMS LIKE WELL, $150,000 FOR A HOUSE. WELL, TRY TO GET A HOUSE AROUND HERE. I THINK THEY'RE RUNNING UP AROUND 300 GRAND. SO WHAT I'M GETTING TO IS. A NEW INTERPRETATION OR CHANGE IN THE LAW. WOULD YOU HAVE TO REMIT BACK THE EQUITY? CORRECT. I MEAN, WE NEVER SAID SO. THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE PRICE. SO. SO EVERYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 22,000 GOES BACK, REMITTED BACK TO THE PEOPLE. RIGHT. WELL IN THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE MAYBE MAYBE NOT. SHE SHE HAD NO CHILDREN. TO MY KNOWLEDGE. SHE HAS NO RELATIVES TO MY KNOWLEDGE. AND WHAT THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHAT WHETHER HER PARTNER CAN CLAIM ANY OF THE MONEY. I'M NOT SURE, BUT THEY HAVE THREE YEARS TO DO IT UNDER THE LAW. AND IF THAT'S NOT DONE, THEN THAT DIFFERENCE WILL GO BACK TO THE COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TONY. OH GO AHEAD TONY. ON THAT POINT, WHAT ABOUT THE ADVANTAGE PROPERTY LAW. YOU KNOW THE STATE TRIES TO TAKE MONEY IF IT'S NOT CLAIMED. IT LOOKS LIKE THE COUNTY AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK WOULD HAVE A COMPETING CLAIM FOR THAT MONEY AS ABANDONED PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, OF A FAMILY? YEAH. THE ENABLING LEGISLATION ON IN NEW YORK STATE AFTER HENNEPIN. NYSAC AND MOST OF THE COUNTY TREASURERS ACROSS THE STATE COMPELLED THE STATE TO ALLOW THE RESIDUAL TO COME BACK TO THE COUNTY, UNLIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WHICH GETS ABANDONED TO THE STATE. SO THAT WAS SOMEWHAT OF A COMPROMISE. SO THAT WAS ADDRESSED ALREADY IN THE LAW? YES, IT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. GO AHEAD STEVE. CLARIFYING QUESTION TONY. WE USED TO DO THIS LIVE. LES PORTER AND ALL THE CREW USED TO DO THIS LIVE. SO YOU COULD SIT IN THE ROOM AND SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE BIDDING. NOW IT'S DONE ONLINE. RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHEN YOU BID WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE BIDDING. IS THAT CORRECT? BLIND, OR DO YOU KNOW? NO, I THINK YOU KNOW. DO YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN SEE THOSE BEDS. YOU DON'T KNOW. THEY MAY HAVE A USERNAME, RIGHT? EACH. I WAS ASSUMING THE BIDS ARE PROBABLY HIGHER NOW THAT THEY'RE ONLINE, BECAUSE BACK IN THE DAY [00:20:01] YOU HAD TO ACTUALLY COME DOWN HERE AND GO TO THE, YOU KNOW. SO YES. WELL, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A WIDER MARKET, THAT'S FOR SURE. AND I DO THINK YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN. YOU DO. YOU PROBABLY DO HAVE HIGHER BIDS NOW. YOU GOT BID UP. BUT I'M THINKING IN MY MIND THERE'S PEOPLE ALL AROUND ON ONLINE BID AGAINST IT. WELL IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE IT'S NOT REALLY A BAD HOUSE. I MEAN IT'S AND IT'S IN THE CITY OF. CHERYL, IF YOU TAKE THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE. IT'S A NICE HOUSE. SO. YOU'RE GOING TO PAY MAYBE 50,000 TO FIX IT UP INSIDE OR DO SOME WORK IN IT. AGAIN, THAT'S A TWO FAMILY HOUSE TO. SO THE PARTY WHO'S PURCHASING IT IS GOING TO LIVE IN ONE UNIT AND RENT THE OTHER UNIT OUT. VERY NICE POINT. OF CORRECTION. YOU SAID THE HIGHEST. I HAVE TO DEFEND MY OLD COLLEAGUE. HE GOT THE. HE GOT EVERY LAST TIME I. I KNOW, UNLESS IT'S GOOD. HE WAS GOOD. KEITH. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT WAS ON KINGSLEY AVE AND CHERYL. SO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES LOOKING FOR A NICE CITY? ONE TO CO LEGISLATOR HERE TIM MENTIONED THAT NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, GOOD SCHOOL SYSTEM, CITY ATMOSPHERE. SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING IT WOULD BE FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL. ANY ANY COLLEAGUES WANT TO MOVE OUT THAT WAY. WE COULD SEE YOU MIGHT EVEN WITHOUT FIXING UP BE ABLE TO PUT AN OFFER IN TO THE NEW PURCHASER. SO LET ME REMIND YOU, THE EPICENTER OF TECHNOLOGY AND COMPUTERIZATION IS IN MARCY. SO ANYBODY LOOKING TO LOCATE THERE AND CHERYL'S JUST A SHORT COMMUTE THERE. ONE BATHROOM. ALL RIGHT, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT PASSED. LET'S GO TO 1598 FINANCE. THIS IS APPROVAL OF THREE REFUNDS. ONE CORRECTION TO VARIOUS ERRONEOUS TAX ASSESSMENTS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TONY ON THIS DOCKET? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. NEXT ONE IS 1688. AND THIS WOULD BE FROM PERSONNEL APPROVAL OF A SECOND RENEWAL OF MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL AND TOWNSQUARE MEDIA OF UTICA, ROME, INC, NOT TO EXCEED 75,000 PER YEAR, THREE YEAR TERM. EXCUSE ME, AND TWO ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR TERMS ARE AVAILABLE. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW WE GOT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW IT'S WORKED AND WHETHER IT'S WORKED. GETTING MORE STAFFING FOR AREAS WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE'RE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME DEFICITS IN CERTAIN AREAS WITH A LOT OF VACANCIES. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES 1318 DFCS. APPROVAL OF A MODIFICATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND NEW YORK STATE THROUGH ITS OFFICE OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? WENT THROUGH STEVE'S COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION. LET'S MOVE ON TO MVCC 1707. AND THIS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE 2025 2026 MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE OPERATING BUDGET. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GEORGE, WE'LL START WITH YOU. RANDY, IN YOUR LETTER. TO, I GUESS, TONY, THE SALARIES AND WAGES WENT UP 2 MILLION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN? JUST NEGOTIATED CONTRACTS. IT WOULD STILL I MEAN, I THINK WE LOOKED AT COMPLIMENT OF EMPLOYEES AND YOU ACTUALLY HAVE AN INCREASE. HOW MUCH? I MEAN, I KNOW UNION CONTRACT COMES THROUGH, BUT IS IT ALL ATTRIBUTED TO THAT? I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING OTHER. AND THEN WE ADDED FOUR POSITIONS, FOUR POSITIONS, ADDED FOUR POSITIONS, YEAH. NO I MEAN IT'S 380. 380 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. AND ANOTHER 120 FILLED VACANCIES. YEAH. SIX [00:25:04] PROGRAMS. YEAH. NO, NOTHING LIKE GRANT FUNDED OR ANYTHING. IT JUST SEEMED, YOU KNOW, I LOOK BACK AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY OTHER YEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WOULD HAVE GONE UP THAT MUCH. YEAH. AND NOTHING SEEMS OUT OF THE ORDINARY. DULY NOTED. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. FEEL FREE. YEAH. SEE, ABOUT 78% OF THE BUDGET IS PERSONNEL, OKAY? YEP. SO, GEORGE, ARE YOU ALL SET? YEAH. I'M GOING TO KEEP THAT AS AN OPEN QUESTION. FAIR ENOUGH, FAIR ENOUGH. LOOKS LIKE GEORGE IS ON THAT. SO YEAH. NEXT YEAR WITH A BONUS. LET'S GO TO KEITH. I'M SURE HE WANTS TO MAKE A COUPLE STATEMENTS ACTUALLY, RELATIVE TO THE EMPLOYMENT THE BENEFITS WOULD BE A PIECE OF THAT SALARY. CORRECT. SO OKAY. THERE'S ANOTHER. BENEFITS. SO I REFERENCED YESTERDAY RICK, THAT PRESENTATION AT MV DID BACK IN MAY THE DETAILS. AND THAT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE. AND YESTERDAY WAS KIND OF A CAPSTONE OF HERE'S THE BUDGET THAT WE ARRIVED TO THIS POINT TO APPROVE GOING INTO THEIR YEAR. SO I'M ALL SET. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. TOM, I KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE. PERSONNEL VACANCY RATES. ARE YOU STILL PERIODICALLY LOOKING AT THAT VACANCY RATE AS FAR AS WHERE THE VACANCIES ARE AND PULLING THAT THAT AMOUNT FROM YOUR SALARY LINES AND PUTTING IT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT? WE DO WE LOOK USUALLY SOMEWHERE AROUND DECEMBER. RIGHT. SO THAT'S NOT EXACTLY QUARTERLY. OUR YEAR STARTS SEPTEMBER 1ST. SO WE START THE BUDGET PROCESS SOMETIME AROUND JANUARY FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO WHAT WHAT I WHAT WE DO IS AS OF DECEMBER, WE LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE IN THE BUDGET AT THAT POINT IN TIME. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT IS SALARY POSITIONS. LOOK AT VACANCIES AND TRY TO PROJECT OUT OF THE TOTAL SALARIES BUDGETED, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO, WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO SPEND THROUGH THE YEAR? RIGHT. AND SO WE SORT OF TRACK THAT NOT EVERY YEAR, BUT SOME YEARS AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WE GET INTO LIKE MARCH, WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN AND WE'LL PROJECT OUT THE SALARIES AND ALL OF THE SPENDING. AND SOMETIMES WE WILL SWEEP MONEY OUT OF ACCOUNTS IF WE SEE THERE'S ACCOUNTS THAT MONEY'S NOT BEING SPENT OUT OF, WE'LL SORT OF TAKE THAT BACK. PART OF THE STRATEGY IS WHEN WE BUDGET FOR SALARIES, WE BUDGET ALL OF OUR SALARIES AND WE BUDGET THEM INDIVIDUALLY IN EACH DEPARTMENT, AND WE BUDGET AS THOUGH EACH POSITION IS GOING TO BE FILLED FOR THE FULL YEAR. RIGHT. BUT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND SO TYPICALLY WE ALSO HAVE CONTRACTS THAT ARE NOT SETTLED. RIGHT. SO AS I'M BUDGETING SALARIES THAT WILL START ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THERE THERE IS ONE OF OUR BARGAINING UNIT CONTRACTS HAVE NOT BEEN SETTLED YET. SO I DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THE INCREASE IS GOING TO BE. RIGHT. BUT BASED ON HISTORY, THEY GENERALLY COME IN SOMEWHERE AROUND 3% ISH RIGHT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO WHAT I DO IS I BUDGET AN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND, AND KIND OF A RESERVE ACCOUNT. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S MY BEST GUESS AT WHAT THE INCREASES ARE GOING TO BE. WHAT'S THE EXTRA SALARY I'M GOING TO NEED THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS YET. THEN WHAT I DO IS I REDUCE THAT NUMBER BY AT LEAST SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO ACCOUNT FOR VACANCIES DURING THE YEAR. RIGHT? SO THAT'S HOW I SORT OF BUILD IN VACANCY SAVINGS INTO THE BUDGET. I SHORT THAT RESERVE ACCOUNT. I'VE EVEN BUDGETED LIKE A NEGATIVE NUMBER SOMETIMES WHEN ALL WHEN ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN SETTLED. SO I KNOW WHAT THE SALARIES ARE. I BUDGET THE FULL SALARY, THEN I BUDGET A NEGATIVE NUMBER AGAINST IT TO ACCOUNT FOR VACANCIES. SO WE TRY TO WE TRY TO GET IT AS CLOSE AS WE CAN IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET. VERY GOOD SALARIES ARE GOING TO BE. ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS TO TOM'S RESPONSE? I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. IT'S IT PERTAINS TO BUDGET. AND ACTUALLY IT DOES PERTAIN TO MVCC. WE KNOW THAT UTICA COLLEGE IS LOOKING AT ELIMINATING SEVERAL PROGRAMS. IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR POSSIBILITY OF SOME SOME NEW PROGRAMS AT MVCC THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE REVENUE? AND OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD NEED MORE STAFFING. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW, DOC, WITH THE UTICA COLLEGE IN AS FAR AS UTICA COLLEGE'S PROGRAMS, I HAVEN'T DONE ANALYSIS OF THEIR PROGRAMS. VERY INTRIGUED TO SEE THEM SAY [00:30:03] THEY'RE GOING TO START OFFERING ASSOCIATE DEGREES, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT FOR US, OUR NEWEST PROGRAM IS IN PROCESS FOR DENTAL HYGIENE, HOPING FOR A FALL 26 AND APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY TO BUILD THE LAB AND ON THE ROME CAMPUS. THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE. AND THEN, AS I'VE SHARED FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, OUR FASTEST GROWING AREA IS NONCREDIT. NONCREDIT WORKFORCE IS UP, I THINK 30 OVER 30% IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND OUR FREE FAST TRACK MODEL AT THE COUNTY SEEDED WITH HALF A MILLION OF STIMULUS DOLLARS, HAS JUST CONTINUED TO GROW, CONTINUED 100 TRAINED INDIVIDUALS A MONTH FOR 30 MONTHS NOW. AND THAT'S HELPED REALLY STABILIZE THE BUDGET TO A GREAT EXTENT. THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU BET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. LET'S MOVE ON TO 1684. PLANNING APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT. TEMPLATE FOR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES TO BE USED FOR INTER-MUNICIPAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. NOW WE'RE ON TO 1600. WATER POLLUTION. APPROVAL OF A TOLLING AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF WATER QUALITY AND WATER POLLUTION CONTROL AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THROUGH ITS US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, BUFFALO DISTRICT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE ON THAT DOCKET? SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES SHERIFF'S OFFICE 1300. APPROVAL OF GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. NEW YORK STATE THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $40,000 TO A 31 1031 20.2 90 000 OTHER EQUIPMENT. SHERIFF, ANY QUESTIONS TO THE SHERIFF ON THIS DOCKET? SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THIS IS 1591. SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $149,640 TO A 1165. VARIOUS DISTRICT ATTORNEY ACCOUNTS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS HERE ON THIS DOCKET? NO QUESTIONS. WE'LL CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES AIRPORT 1657, APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER 36 TO MASTER AGREEMENT FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND CNS ENGINEERS, INC. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE ON THIS DOCKET? SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 1577 IS AIRPORT AGAIN. TRANSFER OF $17,850 TO A 99 009901. 900 000 TRANSFER TO OTHER FUND BUDGET AND THE AMENDMENT TO CAPITAL PROJECT H AIR 098, APRON ONE AND TWO IN REHAB. PHASE ONE OBVIOUSLY GOES THROUGH BOB'S COMMITTEE. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. NO OPPOSITION. THAT CARRIES 1659 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $2,632,305 TO AID 9900 99 .1. 900 105 TRANSFERRED TO OTHER FUND CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND FROM THE BUDGET. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE ON THIS DOCKET? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. TIM. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? MIKE. ANYTHING ELSE? CHAIRMAN. ANYTHING ELSE? CALL THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SECOND. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.