[b. 2025-1444 – HEALTH DEPARTMENT RE: APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AND NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $4,047,000.00 TO A 4010 4062.495-160 – OTHER EXPENSE GRANT FUNDED EXPENDITURES (HEALTH) ]

FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALRIGHT, WE MOVE ON TO DOCKET 20251444 WITHOUT DEPARTMENT AND THE GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR $4,047,000. TO 8.104062.9495-160. OTHER EXPENSE. GRANT. EXPENSES. DOCTOR GILMORE, YOU WANT TO GIVE US A411 ON THIS? I'LL DO THE BEST I CAN ON THAT. IT'S QUITE A SUM OF MONEY, AND IT'S DIVIDED OVER FIVE YEARS, WHICH AMOUNTS TO JUST SHY OF $810,000 A YEAR. AND THE PRIMARY PURPOSE FOR THESE FUNDS IS TO WORK WITH ACTUALLY CODES DEPARTMENTS IN UTICA AND ROME FOR SPECIFIC ZIP CODES TO DEVELOP A LEAD RENTAL REGISTRY.

THE DIFFICULTY IS, IS WE'VE WORKED WITH THE STATE TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF POSSIBLE LANDLORDS. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN VERY HELPFUL. THEY VOLUNTEERED THAT EARLY ON. THAT'S WHY THE GRANT DATE IS EARLIER THAN TODAY IS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO. WE'VE JUST GOTTEN THE CONTRACT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. SO WE DON'T HAVE A FULLY DEVELOPED PLAN YET FROM THE STATE TO WORK WITH. BUT THAT'S THE GOAL. GOAL WITH THIS. BASICALLY IT'S PART OF THE LEAD POISONING PREVENTION PROGRAM. SO IT'S MANDATED PROGRAM. IF WE DON'T HAVE THESE DOLLARS, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THIS. AND I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STATE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. I'M NOT ENTIRELY HAPPY WITH WHERE THINGS ARE IN TERMS OF THE OF THE REGULATION PART. THEY HAVE THE LAW, THEY HAVE THE AGREEMENT, BUT THE REGULATIONS HAVEN'T ALL BEEN WORKED OUT. SO I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. BUT SOME MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS. GOOD, GOOD. SO ANY QUESTIONS FROM WITHIN THE COMMITTEE. GO AHEAD CHRIS. SO WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT MEAN? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A REGISTRY AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE INSPECTED AND DOCUMENTED AS FREE OF LEAD PAINT HAZARDS. WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? FREE OF HAZARDS

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BEFORE IT CAN BE ISSUED A LEAD SAFETY CERTIFICATE. SO THAT MEANS THAT, AS YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH RIGHT NOW, IF THERE'S A LEAD POISONING CHILD, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT GOES THROUGH AND DOES AN INSPECTION OF WHERE THEY LIVE. AND IF THERE'S A LEAD HAZARD, THE LEAD HAZARD HAS TO BE REMEDIATED BEFORE A CHILD COULD STAY THERE. IT'S NOT COMMON, BUT BUT WE'VE WE'VE HAD TO WORK WITH THAT OVER THE YEARS. SO IN THIS SENSE THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME THING. THE PLACE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FULLY ABATED, BUT IT HAS TO BE LEAD SAFE OR THERE HAS TO BE NO LEAD HAZARDS. SO THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME. WELL, FIRST WITH THE INITIAL INSPECTION, A PROPERTY OWNER WOULD RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE OF LEAD SAFE. AND THAT HAS TO BE RENEWED EVERY THREE YEARS IS IN THE GUIDELINES RIGHT NOW. IT PROBABLY WON'T CHANGE, BUT I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. THAT COULD CHANGE AND THAT WOULD. THE LEAD INSPECTION COULD BE DONE BY CONTRACTORS HIRED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND THEN CONFIRMED BY HEALTH DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES, OR FOR THAT MATTER, CODE CODES OF OFFICIALS. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ONEIDA COUNTY CODES. OFFICIALS USUALLY DON'T GET INTO LEAD LEAD INSPECTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF I ADDRESSED YOUR QUESTION FULLY, BUT IT'S. YEAH. A LOT OF ISSUES. NOT. THROUGH INSPECTION. AND, YOU KNOW, ALLOW YOU TO GO IN AND DO THE REMEDIAL WORK. BUT, I MEAN, I JUST QUESTION SOME PROCESSES BECAUSE I'VE WATCHED THEM ACTUALLY PERFORM THE TESTS BEFORE. AND. LEARNED THAT. I'VE LITERALLY HAD INSTANCES WHERE I'VE TAKEN WET WIPES AND CLEANED THIS BY MYSELF SEVERAL TIMES. AND THEN INSPECTORS COME IN SEVERAL MINUTES LATER AND TEST THAT AREA, AND THEN TEST WILL COME BACK POSITIVE AND FIND A SURFACE THAT I'VE PROBABLY PAINTED MYSELF ABOUT TEN TIMES OVER THE YEARS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S NO SURFACE LED THERE, AND THEN I'VE CLEANED IT, BUT I'VE WATCHED THEM WITH THEIR TOOLS AND THEY'RE JUST NOT REALLY CAREFUL CLEANING THEIR TOOLS AND PUTTING THEM AWAY SO THAT JUST STUFF GETS CARRIED FROM THE LAST PLACE THAT THEY WERE AT. OTHER INSTANCES WHERE I'VE HAD PEOPLE MOVE IN TO AN APARTMENT, THEY TESTED THE CHILD, AND THEN THEY COME TO ME AND SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THEY'VE DONE INSPECTIONS AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE. COME THROUGH THE APARTMENT. AND THIS PERSON DIDN'T EVEN LIVE IN MY APARTMENT. THEY LIVED IN ANOTHER PLACE, JUST MOVED INTO MY PLACE. BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE TESTED AND NOW THEY'VE MOVED HERE, I'VE GOTTEN THIS. I THINK THAT I KNOW THIS IS A MANDATED PROGRAM, BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MONEY SPENT ON ON. PARENTS IN CHILDREN, HOW TO KEEP THEIR APARTMENT IN A MANNER WHERE THESE ISSUES WOULD NEVER POP UP, WIPING OFF WINDOWSILLS WITH RUBBER GLOVES AND WET WIPES, MOPPING THE FLOOR MORE THAN ONCE A DECADE. THESE THE HOUSING CONDITIONS. I MEAN, I KEEP MY APARTMENTS IN GOOD CONDITION. I KEEP THE. FAULT PATCHED AND PAINTED. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE BETTER SPENT IN AN EDUCATIONAL FORMAT. BUT DOES WHICH, AND I KNOW OF WINDOWS THAT ARE WINDOWS THAT GO UP AND DOWN, THEY NEGLECT US AND IT PUTS US AND PUTS HIS HAND ON THE WINDOWSILL BACK IN HIS MOUTH. AND NOW HE'S GOT LEAD POISONING. I SEE THAT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. I'VE CHANGED EVERY SINGLE WINDOW IN ALL MY APARTMENTS. THEY'RE ALL BRAND NEW WINDOWS, SO I DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE ANYMORE. HOWEVER, THERE'S STILL RESIDUAL STUFF FROM DOORS CLOSING AND RUBBING AGAINST PAINT BECAUSE I TRY TO EDUCATE MY TENANTS IN. THAT.

SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN CHASING THIS ISSUE FOREVER. AND YOU KNOW, WE BOUGHT IN LIKE GUNS AND WE'VE APPROVED GUNS IN HERE AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER STUFF. THAT MAYBE WE'RE CHASING THE WRONG

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AREA WITH THE MONEY. AND I KNOW IT'S MANDATED AND THIS IS I DON'T KNOW. AND THAT'S FAIR.

WHAT I CAN ADDRESS, THE EDUCATION COMPONENT FOR TENANTS. WE DO HAVE A HEALTH PROMOTION TEAM THAT WORKS ON THAT AND GOES OUT AND MEETS WITH THE TENANTS. AND WE'RE WORKING NOW WITH THE UTICA CODES DEPARTMENT TO DISTRIBUTE CLEANING SUPPLIES AND SUCH. BUT WE'RE ONLY MODERATELY SUCCESSFUL AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET, IS PEOPLE HAVE COME IN TO DO MY TESTING. THEY SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER TWO PEOPLE WITH THEM AND TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. THIS NEVER HAPPENED. THIS WOULD BE A DIRECT IMPACT BECAUSE THIS IS A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE GETTING LAGS. SO IT'S A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY COME IN WITH A TESTING CREW TO COME IN WITH AN EDUCATIONAL CREW AS WELL AND EDUCATE THE TENANT. BUT KEEP THEIR FAMILIES. YEAH, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION. AND WE COULD INCORPORATE THAT POTENTIALLY INTO AND UTILIZE MONIES TO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF GO OUT. OR IS THIS IS THIS PROBLEM A PROACTIVE PROGRAM OR A REACTIVE PROGRAM? SOMEBODY CALL AND SAY YOU THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE A LEAD OR IS IT PROACTIVE OR YOU JUST KIND OF SIGHT AREAS AND SAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO CHECK IT OUT BECAUSE IT'S TESTED TEST POSITIVE. THAT'S HOW IT STARTS. YEAH. THEY SEND SOMEBODY OUT BECAUSE VIRTUALLY EVERY HOUSE, 90, 95% OF THE HOUSE INVENTORY IN THIS WHOLE AREA, HOUSES BUILT BEFORE 1978. PROBABLY HAS LEAD PAINT, MOST OF THE INCIDENCES OUTSIDE HOUSE NOT LIVING INSIDE. BUT I MEAN, IT'S ALL THERE. SO IT'S REACTIVE AFTER SOMEBODY. WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WHAT LEGISLATOR NEWTON WAS EXPLAINING IS WHAT OUR PROGRAM IS NOW. AND THAT'S WHEN A CHILD HAS LEAD POISONING. THIS IS PROACTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S TARGETING HOUSES THAT ARE RENTED TO PEOPLE, NOT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, TWO FAMILY OR GREATER, OF COURSE. AND THE LEAD RENTAL REGISTRY, THE LANDLORDS THAT HAVE PRE I THINK THE YEAR IS IT'S EITHER 82 OR 84. THEY WENT ABOVE 78 TO BE 1978, BE CONSERVATIVE. BUT THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT TO REGISTER THOSE HOUSES AND REGISTRY AND THEN HAVE THE INSPECTIONS DONE. IT DOESN'T MEAN AND OUR ESTIMATES ARE ESTIMATES. IT IS. YEAH. OUR ESTIMATES IN UTICA ALONE WE'RE NOT. THERE'S A 2000 2000 UNIT DIFFERENCE IN UTICA BETWEEN WHAT WE AS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAVE ESTIMATED, AND THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS PROVIDED US WITH. SO IT'S BETWEEN 6 AND 8. AND QUITE HONESTLY, I THINK 8000 IS STILL STILL LOW BY A BIT. BUT I DON'T HAVE BETTER DATA. I'M NOT SURE YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT THE TRIGGERS THE. TRACKING OF THAT RIGHT NOW. CHILDREN ARE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TESTED FOR BLOOD LEAD LEVELS AT AGES TWO, ONE AND TWO. AND THEN IF THE IF THE BLOOD LEVEL IS GREATER THAN FIVE, THEN THAT WOULD TRIGGER. BUT AFTER THAT, IS THERE ANY THERE'S FOLLOW UP UNTIL IT GOES DOWN BELOW FIVE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S LESS THAN A YEAR.

IT'S AFTER I BELIEVE IT'S EIGHT MONTHS. BUT I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE EXACT NUMBER. TIME IS UP, THEN WE'LL HAVE. THAT WHEN YOU MOVE INTO A HOUSE. RIGHT? SO I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN YOU SAY THAT A LANDLORD IS GOING. GRAY AREA RIGHT THERE. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE MY FRIEND AND I TELL YOU TO GO IN AND DO THIS, YOU SAY THAT IT PASSED. AND HOW MANY PARENTS ARE GOING TO KNOW THAT IF YOU DO PAINT, YOUR HOUSE CAN BE IMMACULATE? BUT IF THERE'S A LEAK, CREVICES WHEREVER THE DUST IS, YOU CAN'T BLAME A TENANT OR A PARENT. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS. NOT GOING TO DO IT. AND. HOW DO YOU DO THAT WITH ALL THESE? PROPERTIES? BUT AREN'T THERE FOLLOW UP ON THAT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GIANT.

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IT IS. AND FIRST, TO ADDRESS THE POINT WITH TESTING THE HOME FOR LEAD LEAD LEVELS, THERE HAS TO BE DONE BY A CERTIFIED CERTIFIED TESTER. YOU'RE CORRECT. IT COULD BE A FRIEND THAT YOU KNOW PROVIDES IMPROPER RESULTS, BUT IT'D BE UNLIKELY BECAUSE THEY'D LOSE THEIR CERTIFICATION IF THEY WERE CAUGHT. BUT IT COULD HAPPEN. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT WOULD, WOULD OR WOULDN'T, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE. IF THEY WERE TURNED IN OR CAUGHT, THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR TESTING LICENSE. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE. LANDLORDS NOT COMPLYING WITH THE REGISTRY, THE WAY THE LEGISLATION IS WRITTEN, THEY SIMPLY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RENT ANY LONGER. LEGALLY. THAT'S THAT'S THE HAMMER. YES, THAT WOULD BE YES. OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIND A HOME WHERE, YOU KNOW. AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY LEAD IS LIKE CHASING DRAGONS. ANYWHERE. AND THE PAINT WASHED OFF THE ALUMINUM SIDING. SO. STATING THAT YOU SAID IT'S OLDER, IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION. YOU CAN BASICALLY MAKE A REACH THAT THAT DRIPS DOWN INTO THE. SOIL AROUND THAT HOUSE. WHICH WOULD BE THE LAST PLACE IN. THE. IN THE FIXTURES, THE WATER FIXTURES TO. CITY OF UTICA, FOR EXAMPLE.

YOU'RE DEALING WITH. SECTION EIGHT INSPECTIONS. COMING IN AND INSPECTING YOUR HOUSES. MOST OF THE TIME IT WILL BE HOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS HAPPENS. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S A BAD THING, BUT YOU HAVE A CHILD MIGHT HAVE AN ELEVATED BLOOD LEAD LEVEL FROM THREE HOUSES. YES. AND SHOW UP AND THEY'RE SHOWING UP FROM COLLINSVILLE OR SHOWING UP FROM NORTH CAROLINA AND COMING IN. BECAUSE FOR A WHILE, BECAUSE THEY WERE. OVER A PIECE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOW THAT FAMILY'S GOING TO BE HOMELESS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT OF THE PROPERTY. FAMILY'S GOING TO SAY, TO HELL WITH THAT. I'M NOT. HIS VERY.

AND, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE EXACERBATING THE HOMELESS PROBLEM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE OR THE HOUSING PROBLEM BY SAYING IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE? IT SHOULD BE DONE? I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT. EVERY KID BRUSHING HIS TEETH EVERY SINGLE DAY. SO IT IS IN THEIR. HAVE TO GET OUT. AND.

YEAH, WELL, IN RESPONSE TO THAT, WITH THE WATER ISSUE, THERE IS MONIES THAT ARE I'M NOT SURE OF THE STATUS OF IT BECAUSE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WASN'T INVOLVED WITH IT DIRECTLY, BUT THE CITY OF UTICA RECEIVED LEAD SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENTS. I DO KNOW THE MOHAWK VALLEY WATER AUTHORITY IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN HOMES. THEY DON'T HAVE TO OWN THE HOME.

IT COULD BE TENANTS TO TEST WATER UPON REQUEST. THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR LEAD, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT DOES HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AS YOU SUGGEST. IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF FUNDS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF, NEXT MONTH I'LL HAVE ANOTHER DOCKET WHERE IT'S CALLED THE LEADING AND LEAD GRANT. I HAD HOPED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THEM BOTH TOGETHER, BUT THERE WERE DELAYS IN THE IN THE DOCKET BECAUSE THAT'S THROUGH A DIFFERENT STATE AGENCY. IT'S NOT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. IT'S THROUGH THE. COMMUNITY RENEWAL. SO IT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS WITH THAT PARTICULAR AGENCY. BUT THAT WOULD PROVIDE UPWARDS OF $20,000

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PER PER UNIT FOR LEAD REMEDIATION. I COULD TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE NEXT MONTH. SO THERE IS THERE IS SOMETHING THERE. IS IT ENOUGH? NO, BUT BUT THERE'LL BE THERE'LL BE DOLLARS AVAILABLE. THE DIFFICULTY WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM. AND I'VE BEEN HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HOUSING THE COMMUNITY RENEWAL AGENCY ABOUT IT IS THEY'RE PUTTING HUD HOUSING, URBAN DEVELOPMENT, THE FEDERAL LEVEL TYPE OF RESTRICTIONS ON THE MONEY, WHICH IS KIND OF CUMBERSOME. AND THERE WE HAVE THE CONTRACT, BUT AGAIN, NO REGULATION. SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T KNOW ALL THE PARAMETERS AND THAT I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. AND I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ON SOME OF THE DETAILS IN THE CITIES OF UTICA AND ROME. YEAH. VERY. OPEN THE PANDORA'S BOX. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I YEAH, TO YOUR POINT, ROME IS CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A REGISTRY OF ALL THE LEAD PIPES, AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW A PICTURE OF YOUR PIPES. BIG QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS IF YOU HAVE LIKE, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE TO GET THAT HOMEOWNER OR ARE YOU GOING TO BE GRANTS AVAILABLE. IS IT GOING TO BE THE CITY? WILLIAM COME UP WITH A GOOD ANSWER. SO PEOPLE ARE REPORTING ON WHAT THEIR PIPES ARE. SO THEY HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE SO MANY PER YEAR. AND THEY'RE WAY BEHIND IN GETTING PEOPLE TO REPORT. SO I'M SURE THIS IS REPORTEDLY GOT. YEAH. WELL THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT A CERTAIN AMOUNT PER YEAR TO GET YOU KNOW. I THINK THEY NEED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT. OR IS IT JUST NOT. THE DIALOG ON THIS DOCKET. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DOCKET AND THE $4 MILLION THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO USE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THIS TO SOME DEGREE? ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSING THIS DOCTOR, SAY I THAT'S RIGHT.

MOST. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL, I HAVE A COUPLE. YES, THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. YES. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO

[c. 2025-1340 – HEALTH DEPARTMENT RE: APPROVAL OF A TEMPLATE FOR PRESCHOOL RELATED SERVICES BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AND VARIOUS PROVIDERS ]

ON TO DOCKET NUMBER 202513 FOR APPROVAL OF A TEMPLATE FOR PRESCHOOL RELATED SERVICES IN THE COUNTY AND ITS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND VARIOUS OTHER PROVIDERS. AND DOCTOR GILMORE, THIS IS YOU AGAIN. YES. SO THIS IS A PRE-K PROGRAM. LAST MONTH WITH I SPOKE ABOUT THE EARLY INTERVENTION PROGRAM, WHICH IS. FOR YOUNGER CHILDREN THAN THIS PARTICULAR ONE. THIS IS PRE-K.

THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR THIS FROM THE STATE COMES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. AND HERE WE'RE LOOKING WE HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT WE ACTUALLY EMPLOY TO IMPLEMENT THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. AND HERE'S A TEMPLATE AGREEMENT ATTACHED TO THIS THAT WE'D LIKE TO USE FOR WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 30 CONTRACTORS PLUS OR MINUS TO GO OUT AND PROVIDE THERAPY SERVICES TO CHILDREN. OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY, PHYSICAL THERAPY, SPEECH THERAPY AND HEARING, WHATEVER MAY BE NEEDED. THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THIS FOR THE TEMPLATE OVER FIVE YEARS WOULD BE JUST SHY OF $5.8 MILLION, NOT TO EXCEED $157,014 PER YEAR. AND BASICALLY THE TEMPLATE WOULD BE USED FOR. THERAPISTS INTERESTED IN ENGAGING WITH US FROM. I BELIEVE THE DATE ON HERE IS JULY 1ST FORWARD, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE RETROACTIVE. IT'D BE FROM THE TIME OF SERVICE. WE DO HAVE DIFFICULTY FINDING THERAPISTS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE RATES ARE SET BY THE STATE FOR WHAT THEY'LL REIMBURSE US FOR, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ONGOING SERVICE COORDINATION WITH THE PRE-K PROGRAM. SO WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE THERE.

OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET FOR DOCTOR JOE? YES, I KNOW LAST MONTH WE APPROVED THE. YEAH, THAT WAS FOR THE ONGOING SERVICE COORDINATION. THERE'S BEEN VERY POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM THE PROVIDERS ABOUT THAT. THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY DOLLARS YET. THAT'S WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW OF GETTING THEM TO SIGN, TO HAVE THEM SIGN THE TEMPLATE AND THEN INITIATING THE

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CONTRACT. BUT THEY'RE GLAD TO THEY'RE GLAD TO HAVE LEARNED THAT IT'LL BE RETROACTIVE TO JANUARY 1ST. SO. QUESTIONS ON THE DOCKET. NONE WILL CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I.

[d. 2025-1158 – DFCS RE: APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, AND INTEGRATED COMMUNITY ALTERNATIVES NETWORK, INC. ]

OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED. YES. NOW WE MOVE ON TO 20251158. APPROVAL AGREEMENT TO COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY SERVICES FOR BRADY COMMUNITY ALTERNATIVE NETWORK. SO THIS THIS THIS IS HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOCKET. YEAH. SO WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY THIS IS WITH IN IDEA. YOU SAID INTEGRATED COMMUNITY SERVICES. THIS IS YOU KNOW YEAH I THINK OH SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY.

THIS IS THIS IS 25 1227. CONNECTICUT COLLEGE. ACQUISITION CONTRACT. OH THIS IS JUST GOING TO THE FULL BOARD. YEAH, OKAY. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. YEAH. YEAH. ALL SET THEN. ALL SET. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IT IS. ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE ON TO. 45 1340. APPROVAL FOR SCHOOL RELATED SERVICES. COUNTY AND THE COUNTY. SO YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE ON THAT IS THIS IS THE I CAN ONE I MIXED UP I'M SORRY PRESCHOOL. IS THIS THE HOME THE FAMILY CASE MANAGEMENT. IS IT FAMILY CASE MANAGEMENT OKAY. YEAH. YOU SCARED ME FOR A MINUTE. AND THIS IS ONE. THIS IS FUNDING THAT WAS PUT OUT THROUGH THE OFFICE OF TEMPORARY AND DISABILITY ASSISTANCE THAT WE HAD TO APPLY FOR THAT TO HELP WITH THE HOMELESS SITUATION, TO PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT FOR FAMILIES WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE STATE. BUT IN ONEIDA COUNTY, TOO, WE'VE SEEN AN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF FAMILIES THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. SO WE APPLIED FOR THE MONEY. IT'S A TINY BIT SHY OF 500,000 A YEAR. IT'S A FIVE YEAR GRANT. AND WE'RE. WE PUT IT OUT AND ICANN WAS AWARDED THE CONTRACT, AND IT HAS A FULL TIME SUPERVISOR AND FOUR FULL TIME CASE MANAGERS TO REALLY HELP THE FAMILIES. WELL, FIRST OFF, NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM TO FIND HOUSING BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT RESOURCES, PERHAPS FOR SECURITY DEPOSITS OR ASSISTANCE OR WHATEVER, BUT ALSO TO IDENTIFY THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS THAT MAY BE CAUSING WHY THERE A PERSON IS UNABLE TO MAINTAIN STABLE HOUSING. SO WE WERE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 22 HOMELESS FAMILIES AND IT'S MAY. YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT'S A LOT FOR MAY. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY LIMITED TO. JUST A PRENATAL HEALTH CARE WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO FIND PROVIDERS FOR THIS I KNOW. YEAH. NO, NO IT IS I MEAN I THINK IT TAKES SOME TIME. A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE ABLE TO GET THEM IN IF WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A PEDIATRICIAN OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THROUGH SOCIAL SERVICES, SOMETIMES WE'RE ABLE TO ASSIST AND GET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SEEN QUICKER OR WHATEVER IF THERE'S AN ISSUE LIKE THAT. BUT YES, THAT'S THERE'S AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH, I MEAN, ACROSS THE BOARD WITH APPOINTMENTS, TIMELY CANCELLATIONS, CHANGES. IT'S YEAH. IT'S ONGOING. YEAH.

FAMILIES RIGHT NOW, ARE THEY BEING HOUSED BY THE COUNTY? AND. YEAH. WELL SOME ARE. AND THE ONLY THE FAMILY SHELTER WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS EMMAUS HOUSE. SO AS MANY AS WE CAN ARE HOUSED AT EMMAUS HOUSE. YOU KNOW, TO CAPACITY. EMMAUS HOUSE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A HOME, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY COMFORTABLE HOME, BUT IT'S SET UP LIKE BEDROOMS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF KIDS IN A FAMILY, EVEN THOUGH WE SAY THERE'S 23 POTENTIAL BEDS, IT DEPENDS ON THE FAMILY'S COMPOSITION, HOW MANY THEY CAN ACTUALLY HOUSE. SO OUR FIRST IS ALWAYS EMMAUS HOUSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BUILT IN CASE MANAGEMENT THERE BECAUSE IT'S A CERTIFIED SHELTER. AND THEN YES, THE NEXT AREA IS A MOTEL FREE. YOU KNOW, FREQUENTLY WE HAVE MOST OF THE SHELTERS RIGHT NOW ARE FOR SINGLE ADULTS, WOMEN OR MEN. WELL, WE ONLY HAVE THREE

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SHELTERS, SO I DON'T WANT TO. WE HAVE A EMMAUS HOUSE. WE HAVE UTICA RESCUE MISSION AND JPC SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE IN NEED OF. WE TRY TO THE HOTELS ARE USED TO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN CHILDREN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN THEIR HOME SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO YOU DON'T DISRUPT THEM. AND WE TRY VERY HARD TO DO THAT. AND SOMETIMES THAT'S WHERE EMMAUS HOUSE IS NOT ABLE TO BE UTILIZED. IF IT'S UTICA, IF WE HAVE AN AVAILABILITY OF A HOTEL, SAY, IN ROME OR CLOSER TO THEIR THEIR HOME DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, AND THERE ARE RULES AROUND THAT WHERE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE BUSSING. SO WE WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND DO ASSESSMENTS ON THAT. AND IT DEPENDS WHO PAYS BASED ON A COMPLEX FORM FORMULA. OFTEN WE SHARE IT, BUT YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT EFFORT TO HAVE KIDS STAY IN THEIR HOME SCHOOL.

YEAH. NO. RIGHT. NO IT IS. AND THEN IT'S THE BUSSING. THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABLE TO WE HAVE TO THEN COORDINATE, YOU KNOW, THE BUSSING OR PROVIDES OFTENTIMES SOMETIMES EITHER THROUGH OUR CONTRACTS OR CASEWORKERS, THEY PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION UNTIL YOU CAN SET UP THE BUSSING, WHICH YOU KNOW THAT SPEAKING OF, IT'S LIKE MEDICAL. IT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO SET UP THE BUSSING THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. YOU KNOW, IT CAN TAKE A LITTLE TIME. YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSED MOTION. YEP. 12 TWO 50876 VERBAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN

[e. 2024-0876 – DFCS RE: APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES – OFFICE FOR THE AGING AND CONTINUING CARE, AND PRESBYTERIAN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, INC. ]

THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR THE OFFICE OF THE AGING AND COMMUNITY CARE AND THE PRESBYTERIAN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS ONE OF OUR SOCIAL MODEL ADULT DAYCARE PROGRAMS, STRUCTURED SETTINGS FOR ADULTS 60 AND OLDER. OUR CASE MANAGERS DO ASSESSMENTS FOR PEOPLE. THIS BECOMES PART OF THEIR SERVICE PLAN. IT'S VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN DELAYING OR DETERRING, YOU KNOW, OLDER PEOPLE FROM GOING INTO HIGHER LEVELS OF CARE OR INSTITUTIONAL PLACEMENTS. IT CAN OFFER RESPITE FOR FAMILIES, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT CAN BE OFFERED IN THE DAYCARE SETTING. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL SOMETIMES AN ALTERNATIVE TO PLACEMENT AS WELL AS JUST GENERAL WELL-BEING. VERY GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR COLLEEN ON THIS DOCKET? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. ONWARD AND UPWARD. COLLEEN, YOU'RE STILL UP HERE.

[f. 2025-1217 – DFCS RE: APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, AND TOGETHER FOR YOUTH ]

SO 20251217 APPROVAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY COMMUNITY SERVICES AND TOGETHER FOR YOUTH, TOGETHER FOR YOUTH IS THAT WAS FORMERLY BERKSHIRE. WE CALLED IT IT'S A NON-SECURE DETENTION FACILITY. WE THROUGH MARCH WE'VE HAD 32 YOUTH INTO NON-SECURE DETENTION 32 YOUTH AT ANY LEVEL OF DETENTION REMAINS AND 22 OF THOSE HAVE BEEN NON-SECURE. SO AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WE DON'T HAVE IT. WE DON'T HAVE A RESERVED BED HERE ANYMORE. BUT IF THEY HAVE AN OPENING AND WE'RE ABLE TO USE IT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR. I THINK CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE CHILD AND ONE YOUTH IN THIS FACILITY. GOTCHA. SO GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S THAT

[g. 2024-0870 – DFCS RE: APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES – OFFICE FOR THE AGING AND CONTINUING CARE, AND THE LUTHERAN HOME OF CENTRAL NEW YORK, INC. ]

ONE. AND WE GO TO. 20250870 APPROVAL FOR AGREEMENT WITH UNITED COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, OFFICE OF THE AGING, CONTINUED CARE AND THE LUTHERAN HOME CENTER, CENTRAL NEW YORK, INC. THIS IS ALSO A SOCIAL MODEL ADULT DAYCARE PROGRAM THAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER WITH A DIFFERENT PROVIDER. THIS ONE PROVIDES DAYCARE UP TO 21 PARTICIPANTS. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 47 CLIENTS THAT ARE ATTENDING A SOCIAL ADULT DAYCARE PROGRAM THROUGH. WE HAVE FIVE PROGRAMS, FIVE PROGRAMS, FIVE AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE THIS SERVICE THROUGH A PROGRAM. AND WE HAVE 47 ADULTS WHO UTILIZE THE SERVICE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM FOR THE SAME THING AS I SPOKE TO EARLIER. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET FOR COLLEEN AND SEEING NONE WE'LL GO TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OH I'M SORRY.

OPPOSED. NO MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. DIDN'T GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SAY NO. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO, COLLEEN, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR YOU. RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. THANK

[h. 2025-1331 – PLANNING RE: APPROVAL OF A FASTTRACK TRAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING, AND MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE ]

YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE ON TO PLANNING. AND OUR GOOD FRIEND JAMES OR TIM WOULD

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CALL HIM JIMMY. JAMES GENOVESE PLANNING THAT. WE DID. DOCKET 20251331. PLANNING APPROVAL FOR THE FAST TRACK TRAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND THE MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE. MR. JAMES, WHAT DO YOU GOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS? NOTHING. NO, IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A WORKFORCE PIPELINE INITIATIVE THAT WILL CREATE MORE CHILDCARE WORKERS THROUGH A, A FREE FAST TRACK TEACHING ASSISTANT PROGRAM, CREDITS FOR, FOR EXPERIENCE AND LEARNING AND A MICRO-CREDENTIAL PROGRAM. SO IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. GREAT. JAMES.

HAVE THEY TRIED THIS. THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. I MEAN, WOULD YOU DEFINITELY CHILDCARE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE PROVIDE ALL THESE EMPLOYERS THAT ARE COMING TO THIS AREA WITH WORKERS THAT CAN GO TO WORK, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PROVIDE THESE TYPE OF SERVICES OR HELP WITH THESE AT SOME DEGREE. IS THIS BEEN IS THIS SAME EXACT SYSTEM BEEN USED SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE OR THE COUNTRY AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL GETTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF DAYCARES ONLINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH. SO WE'RE CREATING WORKERS HERE. SO THE NOT NOT THE FACILITIES, THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS ARE, ARE COMMON. YEAH. IT'S MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU APPLY THEM TO. SO FAST TRACKS ARE COMMON. THE WORD I CAN'T PRONOUNCE EXPERIENCED GETTING CREDIT FOR HAVING WORKED IN THE FIELD THE EXPERIENTIAL. THERE YOU GO. AND MICRO-CREDENTIAL PROGRAMS ARE COMMON. WE'RE USING IT FOR THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. OTHER COMMUNITIES DO IT, BUT I DON'T HAVE A LIST OF THEM IN FRONT OF ME. SURE. AND MV DOES A LOT OF THIS, BUT THEY THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT FOR THIS. AND THIS MONEY WILL HELP THEM DO THAT. IT CAME OUT OF OUR CHILD CARE TASK FORCE REPORT. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A NEW THING. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS STUDIED AND TALKED ABOUT.

AND NOW WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT. GREAT. THIS IS. YEAH SOME OF THEM. YEAH THEY ARE. YEAH. MOST OF IT. RIGHT. ALL THIS MONEY TO GET RESEARCH. YEP. IT REMOVES A BARRIER. YEP. IT ALLOWS THEM TO SUBSIDIZE THE RE-UPPING. IT ALLOWS THEM TO GET SOME CREDITS TOWARDS A DEGREE OR TOWARDS A CERTIFICATE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR. THERE IS NO VALUE. THERE'S VERY LITTLE VALUE BETWEEN KIND OF AN ENTRY LEVEL CHILDCARE JOB AND THE BEST CHILDCARE JOB YOU CAN GET OTHER THAN BEING, YOU KNOW, THE HEAD OF THE AGENCY OR WHATEVER, THERE'S VERY LITTLE DAYLIGHT BETWEEN WHAT YOU MAKE THE DAY YOU WALK IN THE DOOR AND MOVING UP. SO THIS INCENTIVIZES, IN SOME WAYS, MOVING UP INTO MORE EXPERIENCE AND GETTING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE PIPELINE.

BECAUSE WITHOUT MORE PEOPLE LIKE HEAD TEACHERS, WHICH IS IN YOUR IN THE CONTRACT HERE IN THE PAPER AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU CANNOT EXPAND THE CHILDCARE SERVICES IN A FACILITY TO MEET THE REGULATIONS THAT THE STATE HAS DECIDED MAKES SENSE TO THEM. SO THAT'S THAT'S PART OF IT TOO.

SO IT'S CREATING THE PIPELINE FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END IN ORDER TO HAVE MORE WORKERS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JAMES SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS DOCKET SAY AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

THANKS, JAMES. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S OUR WORK IS DONE FOR THIS COMMITTEE AT THIS POINT. AND WE'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT SECOND. OKAY. THANK

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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