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GOT IT. WE DO. WE'VE GOT A QUORUM. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING OF PUBLIC WORKS.
CALL THIS MEETING IN ORDER. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF PUBLIC WORKS. NORM HAS SIGNED IN. THERE
[a. 2025-1189 – PUBLIC WORKS RE: AUTHORIZING THE IMPLEMENTATION AND FUNDING OF A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, WHICH MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL-AID AND/OR STATE-AID, OR REIMBURSEMENT FROM BRIDGE NY FUNDS ]
HE IS. NORM. COMPLETING OUR QUORUM TONIGHT. SO, WITH THAT FIRST DOCKET, 2025 1189 AUTHORIZING, IMPLEMENTATION AND FUNDING TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, WHICH MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL FUNDS, STATE AID AND REIMBURSEMENT FROM BRIDGE NEW YORK. CHRIS. GO AHEAD. AND ANYTHING ON THIS DOCKET. JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY THE GREENWAY NEW LONDON ROAD OVER STONY CREEK. IT'S RIGHT AT THE VERY END OF THE ROAD BEFORE YOU GET TO STONY CREEK ROAD. IT'S A 95% PAID FOR BY THE STATE, 5% BY US. IT'S A HALF MILLION DOLLAR BRIDGE TO REPLACE. SO I'M HOPING IT'S A NO BRAINER. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET, CHRIS? SO IT SAYS HERE THAT COUNTY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 5% LOCAL MATCH AND ANY COSTS BEYOND THE FEDERAL AND STATE AID. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS OVERRUNNING AT ALL? NO. YOU DON'T KNOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS DOCKET, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO. AYE. CARRIES. UNANIMOUSLY. DOCKET. NEXT ONE 2025 1222. PUBLIC[b. 2025-1222 – PUBLIC WORKS RE: APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NO. 1 TO AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND MARCH ASSOCIATES, ARCHITECTS & PLANNERS, P.C. ]
WORKS. AGREEMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS. MYRT AND MARGE ASSOCIATES, ARCHITECTS AND PLANNERS. CHRIS. AGAIN, THIS IS CONTINUING THE WORK IN THE RA WING DOWN AT UNION STATION. THE EXTRA MONEY IS BASICALLY FOR OTHER SERVICES. THE SUMMARY OF THE CONSTRUCTION PHASES. IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE. IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS ON TARGET FOR DATES AND FOR MONEY. THEY DO ALL THE CLOSEOUT FOR US, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S TAKEN CARE OF. THEY MANAGE ALL THE MONEY IN THE HOURS, AND THEY WILL ALSO BE DOING THE ASBESTOS MONITORING AT THE END, WHICH THEY DO. ALL THE AIR QUALITY MONITORING FOR US. AT A VERY REASONABLE RATE. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE, CHRIS.SO CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. DOES THAT INCLUDE ON SITE INSPECTION DURING THE WORK? YES. ARE THEY PROVIDING. THEY'RE WATCHING IT. THEY MONITOR EVERYTHING. OKAY. HAS THIS BEEN BID OUT YET? THIS THE ACTUAL PROJECT ITSELF? IT HAS BEEN BID OUT. AND THAT THE AIR MONITORING WAS NOT INCLUDED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR THAT WON THE BID, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE. SERVICES THAT WILL BE PROVIDED BY BY THIS THIS DOCKET. YEAH. TYPICALLY YOU KNOW THE PROJECTS I'VE AND I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS. WE USUALLY INCLUDE THIS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ADVISOR. SO YEAH. NO IT WASN'T BID AS PART OF GENERAL CONSTRUCTION. OH, OKAY.
YEAH. WHAT ELSE? IT YOU SAID THAT THERE IS THEY THEY DO HAVE ASBESTOS PRESENT. THAT'S A KNOWN FACT. THERE'S ASBESTOS PRESENT ON THIS PROJECT MONITORING. THEY'RE GOING TO MONITOR. BUT THERE'S IF THEY FIND IT, THEN THEY DEAL WITH IT. OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT ANY LEAD ISSUES. IS THERE IS THERE NOTHING. NO MONITORING FOR LIKE LEAD DUST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRE-TESTING PRE TEST. OKAY. ALL RIGHT I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. ALONG THE LINE AS BEST AS. DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY ANY IN THAT FACILITY OR FINDING THAT WE DON'T TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE THAT WHEN WE INHERITED IT WE TESTED AT THAT TIME. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANY ON SITE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THE MONITORING. AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE THIRD PHASE OF THE PROJECT. WE'VE BEEN IN THERE BEFORE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN A BIG CONCERN. YEAH. YEAH. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMITTEE. SO MARCH IS JUST GOING TO BE DOING THE ASBESTOS OR ARE THEY DOING EVERYTHING AIR SAMPLING AND MONITORING. YES. WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRACT OUT. YES. PROBABLY. OKAY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A BIG ON SOMEBODY ELSE. I MEAN, IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THE ARCHITECT DO IT THOUGH. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION, SUBMITTALS. CLOSEOUT. LIKE CHRIS SAID. AND SO YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S HOW THEY'RE DOING IT. I THINK. GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD WITH THAT, DAVE. AM I GOOD WITH IT WHEN IT COMES TO THE RTA? OH, JEEZ. I'M NOT GOOD WITH IT.
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YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE. ALL SET. DAVE? YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL PROCEED TO VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I KNOW. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO THE LAST DOCKET. 2025 1327 PLANNING ADOPTION OF THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL SAFETY ACTION PLAN FOR ONEIDA, HERKIMER COUNTIES. DO I GET THAT RIGHT? DID I SKIP ONE ONE? I THINK I'LL GO BACK. SORRY. SORRY, JANE. I KNEW YOU WERE HANGING OUT FOR SOME REASON. GOOD CALL. THIS IS[c. 2025-1288 – PUBLIC WORKS RE: APPROVAL OF AN ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND DELTA ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, LAND SURVEYORS, & LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, D.P.C. ]
1288. YES. SORRY ABOUT THAT, CHRIS. APPROVAL ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND DELTA ENGINEERING. ARCHITECTS, LAND SURVEYORS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. CHRIS, THIS IS OUR 2025 GUIDE RAIL PROGRAM.BASICALLY, THE GUIDE RAIL THAT WILL BE GOING IN ON ALL OF THE ROAD PROJECTS WE DID IN 2024.
THE GUIDE RAIL IS REQUIRED BY NEW YORK STATE LAW. IT'S PART OF OUR REIMBURSEMENT FROM CHIPS.
IT'S COVERED BY CHIPS. AGAIN, IT'S REQUIRED. I THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. GET THE GUIDE RAILS ON THERE. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANKS,
[d. 2025-1327- PLANNING RE: ADOPTION OF THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL SAFETY ACTION PLAN FOR ONEIDA AND HERKIMER COUNTIES ]
CHRIS. NOW, JAMES BENTON, CLEAN UP 2025 1327 ADOPTION OF SAFE STREETS FOR ALL SAFETY ACTION PLAN FOR ONEIDA, HERKIMER COUNTIES. JAMES. YEP. SO FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED TO DO A WHAT'S CALLED A SAFE STREETS FOR ALL PLAN FOR ONEIDA AND HERKIMER COUNTY, WHICH AND THIS IS THE DOCKET. THEY HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY BOTH BOARDS. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO IT HERE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN HERKIMER TOO. THAT'S PART OF THE GRANT. THAT'S PART OF THE GRANT REQUIREMENT TO APPROVE THE FINAL APPROVE THE FINAL DOCUMENT THROUGH THE GOVERNING BODIES. SO SAFE STREETS FOR ALL WAS A, A, A PROGRAM OR A PLAN THAT WE DID THAT LOOKED AT THE ROADWAY SYSTEM UNDERNEATH THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM FOR SAFETY MEASURES. AND AT THE END, IT'S A VERY LARGE DOCUMENT. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE IT. AND IF NOT, IT'S ONLINE. YOU CAN SEE THE LINK.IT'S A IT'S A ANOTHER 200 PAGE PLAN DOCUMENT THAT LOOKS AT PRIORITY NETWORKS AND ROADWAYS AND, AND SUPPLIES COUNTERMEASURES FOR THAT. IT ALSO DID A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT PLANS DO. SO TONS OF DATA FROM CLEAR AND ACCIDENT DATA AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS IN ORDER TO COME TO CONCLUSIONS. SO YOU CAN LITERALLY TAKE ALMOST ANY ROADWAY THAT HAS ACCIDENTS. SOME DON'T, OBVIOUSLY, BUT BUT MOST DO. AND FROM THERE PUT TOGETHER WHAT AMOUNTS TO A BUNCH OF MINI PLANS THAT THAT WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE BETTER COUNTERMEASURES ARE FOR THOSE INTERSECTIONS, ROADWAYS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND THEN THERE'S IMPLEMENTATION FUNDING ATTACHED TO ALL THAT.
THERE'S TEN MAJOR PRIORITIES THAT WERE PLANNED OUT AND ARE IN THE PLAN. BUT YOU REALLY COULD DO IT THERE A FAIR MODEL FOR EVERY FOR BASICALLY EVERY INTERSECTION. RIGHT. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO EVERY INTERSECTION OR THE PLAN WOULD BE 40,000 PAGES LONG. THE BUT IT WILL WORK IN EXTRAPOLATE OVER THE ROAD SYSTEM AND ALL THAT DATA IS THERE AND ALL THOSE COUNTERMEASURES ARE THERE. SO THAT THAT'S WHAT IT DOES. AND THEN THERE'S A ROUNDS OF IMPLEMENTATION FUNDING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PLAN TO GET THE FUNDING. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE STEVE. SO I MEAN THIS IT'S A HOLISTIC PLAN. SOUNDS GREAT. BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK LIKE CAN YOU GIVE US LIKE WHAT WILL HAPPEN LIKE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE? LIKE YOU DO ALL THIS WORK AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A BIKE PATH BETWEEN THIS TOWN AND THAT TOWN. LIKE, WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW? I MEAN, WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THAT? YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME OF IT. YEAH. SO IN A PERFECT WORLD, YOU FIND MONEY AND YOU AND YOU IMPLEMENT THE COUNTERMEASURES. SO IN REALITY, IT'S NOT. SOME OF IT IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT NOT REALLY. MOST OF IT IS. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION AND IT'S YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IT'S OFF. IT'S DISJOINTED. ONE OF THEM IS IN UTICA AND THE NAME IS ESCAPING ME AT THE MOMENT. BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE STREET COMES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, LIKE, YOU GOT TO TAKE, LIKE A HARD RIGHT AND A HARD LEFT TO GET TO THE NEXT INTERSECTION INSTEAD OF GOING STRAIGHT. COUNTERMEASURE MIGHT BE ALIGN THE STREET, RIGHT.
BECAUSE IT'S DANGEROUS, BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S DANGEROUS, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF CRASH DATA THAT SAYS PEOPLE ARE WHACKING OTHER CARS AND WHATNOT THERE. AND IT WILL DO THAT ACROSS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT IS SENECA TURNPIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS ONE OF ONE OF IT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO IT COUNTERMEASURES, COUNTERMEASURES FOR ROADWAY DEPARTURES. AND THAT'S THE WHAT THE IMPLEMENTATION FUNDING IS FOR ROADWAY DEPARTURE IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. YOU LEFT
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THE LANE IN A BAD WAY. THE SO WHETHER YOU HIT ANOTHER CAR OR YOU HIT A CURB, YOU HIT A HOUSE, WHATEVER. COUNTERMEASURES ARE EXACTLY WHAT THEY SOUND LIKE. THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE MORE THEY'RE MORE SHOULDER. THEY'RE ROUNDABOUTS. THEY'RE STREET LIGHTS. THEY'RE STOP SIGNS.THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, PROTECTIVE SAFETY MEASURES IN ORDER TO REDUCE DEATHS ON YOUR ROADWAY.
IT'S ULTIMATELY WILL MAKE ALL YOUR ROADWAYS SAFER. THE MORE YOU IMPLEMENT, MORE YOU IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES. SO THEN DO THEY MAKE LIKE AFTER ALL THIS, DO YOU MAKE LIKE A PUNCH LIST OF LIKE DIFFERENT HOTSPOTS YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF? YEAH, THERE'S TEN ALREADY. YEAH, THERE'S TEN ALREADY THAT ARE THAT ARE IN THE PLAN. AND THEN THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED PRIORITY NETWORK DATA WHICH, WHICH ANY TOWN OR VILLAGE OR, YOU KNOW, CAN CAN ALSO GET UPON REQUEST, WHICH WILL BASICALLY DO THE SAME THING FOR THEIR THE AREA THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THE DATA WE HAVE AND ALL THE, ALL THE MAJOR OVERALL PLAN, YOU CAN DO THAT FOR THEM IN, YOU KNOW, WEEKS INSTEAD OF THE TWO YEARS THIS TAKES TO DO. THAT. STEVE. SO I IF I READ JAMES RIGHT, THEY MIGHT PUT A ROUNDABOUT NOW. YEAH, MAYBE. YOU NEVER KNOW. YEAH. A LOT OF IT'S ABOUT I MEAN, IT COULD BE SIMPLE THINGS LIKE REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT. IT JUST DEPENDS WHAT THE WHAT THE WHAT THE ACCIDENT DATA AND A BUNCH OF OTHER DATA. YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT GUIDES YOUR DECISION MAKING. WELL, IS THIS. AND YOU MIGHT HAVE ALREADY SAID IT. I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT, BUT IS THIS ALL ONEIDA COUNTY OWNED ROADS? IS THIS ALL? NO, IT'S IT NOT THE NOT NOT THE STATE SO MUCH, BUT CERTAINLY INTERSECTIONS WHERE THE STATES ARE INVOLVED. LIKE, IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT'S A COUNTY ROAD OR A TOWN ROAD AND IT CROSSES A STATE ROAD, WE PROBABLY LOOKED AT SOME OF THAT. IT WILL NOT LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE THRUWAY OR THE ARTERIAL. RIGHT. THOSE ARE STATE THOSE ARE STATE ROUTES, STATE ROADS AND ALL STATE SYSTEM CONTAINED. SO IT'S UNDERNEATH THAT. BUT IT WILL ALSO LOOK AT TOWN AND VILLAGES AND ESPECIALLY THE CRASH. CRASH DATA LOOKED AT EVERYTHING TO BE FAIR. BUT THE BUT IT'S THE ROADS UNDERNEATH THAT SYSTEM. CAN YOU SHARE THE TOP TEN WITH US. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW, BUT CAN YOU GET US A DOCUMENT? I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO ASK IT. YEAH. IT'S THERE. IT'S RIGHT THERE. YEAH. YOU GOT IT IN YOUR HAND.
YEAH. IF YOU CAN HAND IT TO ME, I'LL SHARE THEM WITH YOU. THE. I DON'T HAVE THEM MEMORIZED, BUT THEY'RE IN THERE. THE ANATOMY I'LL SHARE WITH YOU. IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S I KNOW THERE'S SO THERE'S OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SENECA TURNPIKE. LAVETTE STREET IN ROME, WHICH IS WHERE KIND OF DOWN ON LIBERTY AND LAVETTE. THERE'S A THERE'S THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT I REMEMBERED THE. AND AS MIKE WALKS ME, THE THING I TELL LAVETTE. CERTAINLY BECAUSE MY, MY BAR IS THERE. SO. SO.
YEAH. AND DEFENSE BUT MAYBE AT WAYS AND MEANS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DAVID THE TOP TEN EITHER WILL GET A COPY OR HE COULD HAVE THEM THEN. SO YEAH. AND YEAH AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T TAKE THE BOOK BUT LIKE BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THE I DIDN'T TAKE THE BOOK WITH ME. I WAS GOING TO BUT I DIDN'T THE, DIDN'T THINK YOU'D ASK DAVE TELL YOU THE TRUTH. THE BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS IT IS. I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE THEM MEMORIZED, BUT I CAN GET THEM FOR YOU AND THEY'RE THEY'RE AVAILABLE ONLINE. BUT THERE'S, THERE'S TEN OF THEM. BUT THE REALITY IS THE BIGGEST THING TO REMEMBER IS, IS THOSE ARE THE HIGH PRIORITY ONES BECAUSE OF THE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC AND CRASHES. BUT THE, THE THEY'RE ALSO NOT JUST PICKED FOR THAT. THEY'RE ALSO PICKED BECAUSE THEY ARE FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR THE REST OF THE ROAD. CHRIS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HE WAS ON THE COMMITTEES AND THINGS, BUT IT'S FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR THE REST OF THE ROAD.
SO IF YOU GOT A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION THAT LOOKS LIKE LAVETTE AND LIBERTY AND ROME, THE COUNTERMEASURES WILL APPLY, RIGHT? YOU CAN EXTRAPOLATE IT ACROSS THE SYSTEM. SO THAT'S THAT'S PARTLY PART OF THE REASON WHY YOU PICK WHAT YOU PICK, RIGHT? SO THAT YOU GET MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK AS FAR AS UNDERSTANDING YOUR SYSTEM AND THE SAFETY THAT GOES THERE. BUT YEAH, I'LL GET YOU THE TEN. I'LL LOOK IN THE BOOK. YOU AIN'T GOING TO WORK HARDER. THEY'RE NOT THAT HARD. IF I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT UP IN MY PHONE, IF I THOUGHT I COULD HAVE STALLED LONG ENOUGH. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE WILL PROCEED TO VOTE ON THIS DOCKET.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NO. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR COMMITTEE. UNLESS ANYBODY'S GOT ANYTHING NEW. MOTION TO ADJOURN. STEVE. SECONDED
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