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GOING. WAYS AND MEANS, CALL TO ORDER. RESOLUTIONS. WE GO. 1207 MIKE AFTER ROLL CALL. IS THAT THE FIRST ONE YOU HAVE? 1185. HERE. I GOT IT. I GOT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 1185 FROM REQUEST[Dockets]
FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. APPROVAL OF A SETTLEMENT WITH DOROTHEA MILLER. IF WE NEED TO TALK. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO HOLD OFF ON THIS TO THE END, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO GO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE WILL. SO INSTEAD OF POSSIBLY GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ON THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION, LET'S LET'S HOLD IT TO THE END. IF YOU COULD REMIND ME, MIKE, ON THAT ONE. LET'S GO TO 1190 COUNTY EXECUTIVE APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY AND BROADWAY THEATER LEAGUE OF UTICA, INC. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SPECIFIC DOCKET FROM COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. 1207 PERSONNEL REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A MEMO. MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY OF ONEIDA. MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND UNITED PUBLIC SERVICES EMPLOYEES UNION. BLUE COLLAR UNIT. AGAIN, MVCC CONTRACT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. 1014 FROM MENTAL HEALTH. AND I BELIEVE ASHLEY COVERED THIS ON THURSDAY. THIS IS APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH AND INTEGRATED COMMUNITY ALTERNATIVES NETWORK, INC. THIS IS I CAN'T QUESTIONS COMMITTEE SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.
LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION. THAT CARRIES. NOW WE GO TO 1031 HEALTH DEPARTMENT. APPROVAL OF A CLEAN AND SAFE INITIATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND UTICA NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES, INC. QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE. SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. DFC APPROVAL. THIS WAS COVERED. MIKE COVERED THIS IN COMMITTEE, I KNOW. THURSDAY. APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES IN NEW YORK STATE THROUGH ITS OFFICE OF TEMPORARY AND DISABILITY ASSISTANCE. AGAIN, MIKE, COVER THIS THREE YEAR 896 K FOR THIS AGREEMENT. AND IT'S AN OUTREACH FOR HOMELESS. MIKE DID SPEAK ABOUT THE ISSUE WITH HOMELESS AND WARMING BEDS AND IT'S QUITE AN ISSUE WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS AND DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE GOTTEN BETTER AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. QUESTIONS FOR MIKE ON THIS ISSUE. 1139 WE'RE AT NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. 1047.
DFCS. APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS OFFICE OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES.
QUESTIONS ABOUT INSPECTIONS. NEW YORK STATE GRANTS ONE YEAR, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. NO QUESTIONS. CALL THE VOTE, PLEASE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. AGING DEPARTMENT 1074. DOCKET MIGHT COVER THIS ONE. APPROVAL OF THE 2425 2024 2025 ANNUAL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR ONEIDA COUNTY FOR THE AGING AND CONTINUING CARE. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS. CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION.
THAT OBVIOUSLY CARE CARRIES. LET'S GO TO 1154 COMING FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE. IT IS AN APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY AND ESSENTIA HEALTH, INC. RFP WAS
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PUT UP FOR THIS PARTICULAR DOCKET, AN AGREEMENT. AND WE ONLY HAD ONE RESPONSE. SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. 1077 BOARD OF ELECTIONS. APPROVAL OF A SERVICE AGREEMENT AND SOFTWARE LICENSE BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND ENHANCE VOTING, LLC. AND WE HAD OUR COMMISSIONERS HERE THURSDAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION. IS THIS IT? ONLY DOCKET FOR BOARD OF ELECTIONS. I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS. IT'S A POINT OF CLARIFICATION AND A CORRECTION ON MY PART. AND SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO ADMIT WHEN ONE IS MADE A MISTAKE. BUT LAST MONTH, I WAS GOING TO REQUEST A REVOTE GOING BACK TO DECEMBER ON TWO RESOLUTIONS PERTAINING TO THE BOARD OF ELECTION COMMISSIONERS. INSTEAD OF OPTING FOR THAT REVOLT, WHICH WE HAVE AN OPTION OF DOING, I'M NOT SURE IF LEGISLATORS ARE AWARE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING AFTER THE PREVIOUS ONE. IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON A DOCKET, YOU CAN REQUEST SOMEBODY THAT VOTED OPPOSITE OF YOU TO PUT UP THE RESOLUTION AGAIN FOR A REVOTE. DIDN'T DO THAT. DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT. BUT WHAT I WANTED TO DO AND DAN HELPED ME WITH THIS. I APPRECIATE DAN'S HELP, AS ALWAYS, AND I'M GOING TO READ THIS LETTER FOR THE RECORD. I'VE BEEN ASSESSING AND REASSESSING MY NO VOTES ON THE REAPPOINTMENT OF THE TWO COUNTY ELECTIONS COMMISSIONERS, WHICH WERE RESOLUTION 2024, 103.1 AND 2024 101 3.2. IN RETROSPECT, I SHOULD HAVE SUPPORTED THE REAPPOINTMENT OF NICOLE SHAUNTEL AS REPUBLICAN COMMISSIONER AND SARAH BORMAN AS DEMOCRATIC COMMISSIONER. WHILE I REMAIN OPPOSED TO SETTING THE COMMISSIONERS TERMS AT THE FOUR YEARS AND STILL STAND BY MY NO VOTE, WHICH WAS IN THE RESOLUTION RESOLUTION 424. I ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO QUARREL WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THE COMMISSIONERS SINCE THEIR INITIAL APPOINTMENTS. AGAIN, IT'S A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE BOARD, AND IT'S A POINT OF, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, CORRECTION, I STILL STAND BY. I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE STAYED AS A TWO YEAR TERM, BUT AFTER THE FACT WAS THE VOTE ON THE COMMISSIONERS, I SHOULD HAVE VOTED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO I WANTED TO CORRECT MY POOR INSIGHT. OKAY. I'M GLAD WE GOT THAT IN WRITING. YOU GOT IT IN WRITING. IT'S PART OF THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. DID WE VOTE ON THAT DOCKET? IS THAT AN EMOTIONAL VOTE? IT'S EVERYTHING'S EMOTIONAL FOR ME. YOU KNOW THAT, NORM. ALL RIGHT, MIKE, WE DIDN'T VOTE, DID WE? WE DID, WE DID. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO FINANCE. 1199 APPROVAL OF THREE REFUNDS AND 11 CORRECTIONS TO VARIOUS ERRONEOUS TAX ASSESSMENTS. ANY ANYBODY WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR TONY ON THAT? TONY'S BACK THERE. NO. AND I THINK CHAD DID ASK A QUESTION LAST WEEK. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION THAT CARRIES PLANNING APPROVAL OF A FLOOD MITIGATION GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND THE VILLAGE OF WATERVILLE. JAMES WAS HERE SPEAKING OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND FLOOD MITIGATION. MITIGATION IN GENERAL. ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION FOR JAMES. OKAY. IS JAMES HERE? OTHERWISE, I'LL CATCH UP WITH SOME OTHER CATCH UP. YOU WANT TO CATCH UP OR. YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. THANKS, ANDY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANDY ON THIS QUESTION? JAMES IS NOT HERE. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE AGAIN. APPROVAL OF A INTERMUNICIPAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY AND THE VILLAGE OF VERNON. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ISSUE? NO QUESTION ON THAT. RESOLUTION IS CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES 0983 EMERGENCY SERVICES COVERED BY ED. APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND NEW YORK STATE THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF HOMELAND SECURITY, EMERGENCY[00:10:03]
SERVICES AND A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $60,000 TO THE ACCOUNT, WHICH IS AUTOMOTIVE PARTS AND SUPPLIES. QUESTION. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITIONS AGAIN FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. HIS OFFICE 1193 APPOINTMENTS TO THE ONEIDA TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD. AND WE SAW THE LIST THERE. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT DOCKET? SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION. OBVIOUSLY THAT CARRIES. OH 973 DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS DIVISION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES. ANY QUESTIONS FOR TODD? I'M NOT SURE IF TODD'S HERE, BUT NO QUESTIONS. CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. AGAIN. DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE APPROVAL OF THE 2023 EQUITABLE SHARING AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THERE ARE NONE. NO OPPOSITION THAT CARRIES SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SHERIFF, WHY DON'T YOU STEP UP THERE? BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TICKLE YOUR BRAIN AFTER THIS. TICKLE YOUR BRAIN? YEAH. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT? YES. APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN NEW YORK. STATE GOVERNOR'S TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. SOMETHING WE'VE GOTTEN BEFORE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF? NO QUESTIONS. CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. JUST A LITTLE LATITUDE FOR THE CHAIRMAN. AND KIND OF PREPPED YOU ON MY QUESTION. AND IT PERTAINS TO A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH ILLEGALS. AND WHAT'S GOING ON NATIONALLY AND STATEWIDE? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. DO WE STILL HAVE TWO ILLEGALS DETAINED? ARE WE DOWN TO ONE? WE HAVE TWO.
OKAY. DO THEY HAVE ARE THEY CONVICTED? DO THEY HAVE A WARRANT TO DEPORT? AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO TREAT THAT? SO THE WAY IT WORKS, OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY ONES THAT WE CAN LEGALLY HOLD ARE ONES THAT ARE BROUGHT TO US WITH A FEDERAL ARREST WARRANT SIGNED BY A FEDERAL JUDGE.
THEY'RE TURNED OVER. SO THE WAY IT WORKS IN THE FEDERAL SYSTEM, IF ANY FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, FBI AGENT. DEA, WHATEVER FEDERAL AGENCY, WHEN THEY TAKE SOMEONE INTO CUSTODY, THEY TRANSFER CUSTODY TO THE US MARSHAL SERVICE. THE MARSHALS ARE CHARGED WITH TAKING CUSTODY AND HOUSING. AND THE MARSHAL IS OBVIOUSLY HOUSED, PEOPLE WITH US. AND THEY HAVE SAID SHERIFF GERALD WASHBURN SIGNED THE FIRST AGREEMENT WITH WITH THE MARSHALS. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD BETWEEN 35 AND 50 BEDS RESERVED FOR THE MARSHALS OVER TIME, PAST SEVERAL YEARS, POPULATION IN JAILS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE DECLINED WITH MARSHAL SERVICES. BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S CHANGING AT THE MOMENT. SO THE TWO THAT WE HAVE CAME IN WITH BOTH A WARRANT SIGNED BY A FEDERAL JUDGE AND A 41, IT'S CALLED A 41 FORM SIGNED BY THE US MARSHAL ITSELF OUT OF THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN ACCEPT THEM. SO IF SOMEONE SAYS WE'RE HOUSING ICE DETAINERS, THAT IS AN INCORRECT TERMINOLOGY. WE DON'T WE CANNOT.
WE ARE NOT LEGALLY AUTHORIZED TO HOLD SOMEONE ON A ICE DETAINER. IF WE HAVE SOMEONE IN OUR CUSTODY ON LOCAL CHARGES AND THEY'RE WANTED BY ANY FEDERAL AGENCY FOR THAT MATTER, BEFORE THEY GET RELEASED FROM US, WE WILL CALL THOSE FEDERAL AGENCIES TO GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, COURTESY. CALL THAT, HEY, TOMORROW AT NOON, SO-AND-SO IS GOING TO BE GETTING OUT, AND THEN THEY CAN FOLLOW THEIR PROCESS. THANKS. I APPRECIATE THAT. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE.
WE COOPERATE WITH ALL FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. SO AS WE'VE ALWAYS DONE, AND NOTHING IS CHANGING FOR US OR ANY OTHER SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE STATE FOR THAT MATTER. SO GO AHEAD, MIKE. WHEN YOU SAY NOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, DIDN'T, THEY JUST HAD A CASE WHERE THEY HAD SOMEBODY IN CUSTODY AND THEY RELEASED THEM. PRIOR TO THE COUNTY, THE SHERIFF AND TOMPKINS COUNTY HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS SENTENCED TO ONE YEAR IN IN HIS JAIL FOR AN ASSAULT IN A DOMESTIC SITUATION. I BELIEVE IT WAS A STABBING ACTION. AND THERE WAS A FEDERAL WARRANT FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL, THE SHERIFF IN THAT COUNTY. CHOSE TO RELEASE THEM PRIOR TO CUSTODY BEING TRANSFERRED TO THE MARSHALS. RIGHT. OR ICE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE CLOUDED WHEN YOU READ THE STORIES IN THE MEDIA. BUT HE WAS LET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY BEFORE HE COULD BE TURNED OVER TO THE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES CUSTODY. AND THAT INDIVIDUAL, THEY SENT A LARGE
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CONTINGENT OF FEDERAL OFFICIALS, BOTH FROM ICE AND FROM THE DEA, OR, I'M SORRY, THE US MARSHALS INTO ITHACA, AND THEY LOCATED THE INDIVIDUAL THE NEXT DAY. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE TWO THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO THE ONE THAT THE TOMPKINS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE DIDN'T KNOW, WE TALK BECAUSE, AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO WHY HE PULLED THEM DOWN THERE, BUT WE TOOK THEM AS WE'VE DONE. LIKE I SAID, SINCE THE EARLY 1990S. SO IT'S UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL. COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS CORRECT TO WHETHER THEY PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM ARE ON BOARD WITH DOING THE RIGHT THING. OBVIOUSLY, THE I THINK THE POLITICAL CLIMATE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF THE STATE IS, IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN IT IS IN OTHER PLACES. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD. WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR FEDERAL INMATES? 110, WHICH IS MORE THAN WE WOULD. I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE ORIGINAL, ORIGINAL MOA THAT SHERIFF WASHBURN HAD, I THINK IT WAS LIKE $60 A DAY. SO IT'S GONE UP, BUT CERTAINLY NOT. I MEAN, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE NOT COMPETITIVE, IT WILL GO OTHER PLACES. AND IT'S MORE THAN COUNTY INMATES FROM OTHER COUNTIES. BUT THAT DOESN'T EVEN THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN ANYMORE. RIGHT. BECAUSE OF ALL THE VACANCY, I MEAN, IT'S RARE THAT THAT THAT A COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HOUSES FOR OTHER COUNTIES, WE STILL HAVE A HANDFUL. TYPICALLY MOST OF THEM COME FROM THE SMALLER COUNTIES, LIKE LEWIS COUNTY. WHEN THEIR FEMALE UNIT IS FULL, WE'LL GET OVERFLOW FROM THAT. OR WHEN OTSEGO HAD A WATER MAIN BREAK AND THEY HAD TO VACATE THE JAIL. WE'LL GET, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT. PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. HOW MANY CELLS DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? OPEN. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW VACANCIES. WE'RE POPULATION TODAY IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 300. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. UNDERSHERIFF YOU KNOW, TODAY'S POPULATION PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 300, BUT WE HAVE 632 FOR TOTAL CAPACITY. SO. SO WE CAN TAKE A LOT MORE. WE COULD. SURE. AND WE WILL DO THAT IF WE'RE LEGALLY ABLE TO DO SO. AS COMMISSIONER, CORRECTIONS MADE A DETERMINATION STATEWIDE ON THIS ISSUE. ARE THEY GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN IT AT ALL? NOT AT ALL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SOMETHING HAPPENED SOMEWHERE. THEN THEY GET INVOLVED. NOT A PROBLEM. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SHERIFF. ALL RIGHT. 1157. 1157.THANKS, MIKE. THIS IS COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE. REAPPOINTMENTS TO ONEIDA COUNTY FIRE ADVISORY BOARD. WE HAD THE LIST. VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATE ASSOCIATION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? THIS LIST? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.
OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICE APPOINTMENTS TO THE ONEIDA COUNTY FIRE ADVISORY BOARD. ONEIDA COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS LIST? NOPE. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION THAT CARRIES 1038 IS PUBLIC WORKS APPROVAL OF A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT TO ONE BETWEEN NUMBER ONE. EXCUSE ME? BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND NEW YORK STATE, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. 1038. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.
OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES. 1195. WATER POLLUTION. CARL WAS HERE TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS ON THURSDAY. APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ONEIDA COUNTY SEWER DISTRICT. RATE. SCHEDULE. HIKE.
QUESTION FROM COMMITTEE. OKAY. LAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE RAISED OUR SEWER RATE NEARLY 30%. AT ONE POINT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE CAN RAISE THE RATE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE SHOULD. AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES WHERE WE'RE REALLY PILING ON THE RATEPAYERS. WE HAD AN 18% INCREASE FIVE YEARS AGO. AND THAT DIDN'T STOP THE INCREASES. THEY JUST KEEP COMING YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. SO IS CARL HERE. AND I'M NOT. OH ANDY. GO AHEAD. YEAH IF I COULD MAYBE YOU KNOW I'LL SAY THIS. IT'S A 2.9% INCREASE THIS YEAR. THAT'S BELOW THE RATE OF INFLATION. THAT WAS 3.1% LAST YEAR WAS 1.9%. THAT WAS WELL BELOW THE RATE OF INFLATION OF 4.1% YEAR BEFORE THAT RATE. DISTRICT RATE INCREASED 1.9%. CPI THAT YEAR WAS 8%. SO I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE THE SEWER DISTRICT IS TRYING TO KEEP ITS ANNUAL INCREASES WELL BELOW THE RATE OF INFLATION. YOU KNOW, THIS INCREASE IS A $16 PER YEAR INCREASE, WHICH ISN'T NOTHING. BUT WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO INFLATIONARY INCREASES ELSEWHERE FOR OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES, I. GO. TO OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IT'S TENS OF MILLIONS. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY 6 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE CONSENT ORDERS IN FRONT OF IT, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS NOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THE COST OF THE INCREASE THROUGH COST SAVINGS. LIKE, YOU'LL SEE A SECRET RESOLUTION. I THINK IT'S
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NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA FOR UB DISINFECTION. THAT'LL PAY FOR ITSELF FOR THE LACK OF BUYING CHLORINE. SO WE ARE TRYING TO CONTROL COSTS AND BELOW CPI INCREASE. YOU KNOW, NOBODY LIKES TO RAISE RATES. BUT WE'VE KEPT IT LOW FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. GO AHEAD. WHAT WAS IT THE.EXCUSE ME? WASN'T THE RATE INCREASE FIVE YEARS AGO SUBSTANTIALLY DUE TO THE BONDING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT OUT, AND WE HAD HAD SINCE 2007, A KNOWING AND MOST OF THOSE BONDING COSTS CAME AT THE TAIL END, AND NOT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 2007 CONSENT ORDER. YEAH. SUCH THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS THAT TSUNAMI OF COSTS THAT WAS COMING, AND IT DIDN'T REALLY INCLUDE SO MUCH COST OF LIVING INCREASES FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE TEAM THAT DO WHAT THEY DO, THEIR DAY TO DAY, AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN TERMS OF PURCHASING THINGS THAT MOST OF OUR FOCUS AS A BOARD WITH THE RATE INCREASES WERE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, AT 53% OF THE OF THE SEWER DISTRICT'S BUDGET GOES TOWARDS DEBT SERVICE. SO IT'S NOT AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY THE MAJORITY. SO THOSE ARE FIXED. THOSE INTEREST RATE COSTS ARE FIXED. WHERE YOU'RE SEEING INFLATIONARY INCREASES OR OTHER THINGS AND THE SAME THE SAME THING. OTHER GOVERNMENTS STRUGGLE WITH WAGES. COST OF MATERIALS PROJECTS BID OUT HIGHER THAN YOU EXPECTED. SO YEAH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD JIM.
OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF. VERY CLOSE TO ME AND MY DAILY WORK.
I'VE SHOWN MIKE MY WATER BILLS BEFORE WITH THE SEWER ON IT AND YOU KNOW, AND HE HAD A VERY DEMOCRATIC ANSWER AND SAYING, WELL, YOU MUST BE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY IF YOU CAN PAY THAT.
AND I SAID, NO, I SAID, BUT IT IS TROUBLING THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR. I MEAN, BELOW THREE, I GET THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S REASONABLE. I MEAN, IS THIS AN ASSURANCE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE MAJOR INCREASES ANYTIME SOON? OR IS THIS A ARE WE TEEING UP A 12% OR A 15% IN THE NEAR FUTURE? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT ANYONE CAN SEE OR OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, EPA OR DC COME DOWN WITH SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING WITH? BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE INITIAL BUILD OF THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, RIGHT. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE, I THINK IN THE 25 OR $30 MILLION RANGE, AND NOW IT'S TENFOLD OF THAT. YEAH. AND I DON'T SEE ANY PLACE WHERE IT'S SLOWING DOWN OR STOPPING.
YOU KNOW, THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE SOME, SOME, SOME CONTROL OVER THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU COUPLE IT ALONG WITH THE YEARLY WATER RATE INCREASE, WHICH FOR SOME REASON THE WATER BOARD CONTINUES TO PILE THAT ON, AND, YOU KNOW, CITY SEWER TAX ALSO JUST WENT UP AS WELL. FAIRLY SUBSTANTIALLY. I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL PILED ON TO THE SAME BILL. SO WHEN YOU GET THAT BILL THAT YOU SAW A YEAR AGO AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, YOU GET IT AT A WHOLE NEW LEVEL AND IT CREATES, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR ISSUE. I MEAN, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THIS IF THIS TAKES EFFECT TODAY, WHAT BILL WILL IT APPLY TO? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, TIM. I'LL HAVE TO ASK CARL. AND THE REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT CYCLE YOU'RE ON, YOU MAY HAVE TWO MONTHS. THAT BILL WAS NOT AT THE NEW RATE. RIGHT. BUT YOU GET CHARGED FOR IT BECAUSE THE NEXT BILL THAT COMES ALONG HAS THAT. AND THAT NEVER REALLY EVENS OUT.
RIGHT? YEAH. HOW TO CREATE THAT TO MAKE IT SO IT IS EQUITABLE TO EVERYONE WHO'S PAYING THAT. IT IS CERTAINLY A CONCERN FOR THOSE OF US THAT DO AND PAY THE SUBSTANTIAL. YEAH. UNDERSTOOD.
I'LL, I'LL ASK CARL AND GET THAT INFO FOR YOU AFTER THE MEETING. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ANDY.
THAT'S ALL. I'M ALL SET. RATE INCREASE IS A FORWARD BILL. IT'S NOT IMMEDIATE. YEAH. THIS IS A DEBATE WE HAD SEVERAL YEARS AGO WITH LEGISLATOR WELCH. I BELIEVE IT WAS RAISED THIS YEAR, THIS ISSUE. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNOW THESE THESE QUESTIONS, ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, THE BUDGET, THE TOTAL BUDGET. YOU'RE SAYING 55, 53, EXCUSE ME, PERCENT IS DEBT SERVICE. THAT'S RIGHT.
YEAH. WHAT'S THE BUDGET? TOTAL BUDGET RIGHT NOW. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF YOU. IN FRONT OF ME. I CAN GET THAT TO YOU, THOUGH. YEAH. SO 55% IS 53. EXCUSE ME, IS DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE? YEAH. WE APPLIED 2.9 MILLION OF OUR FUND BALANCE TO KEEP THE INCREASE BELOW 3%. AND IF IT WASN'T FOR THE 2.9 MILLION, GIVE ME AN ESTIMATE WHAT IT WOULD BE. WE DIDN'T USE ANY FUND BALANCE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE HADN'T APPLIED THAT 2.9 MILLION. IT
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CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOVE 3%, THOUGH. AND TIM, WE DID GET A RESPONSE. THESE CHANGES WILL TAKE EFFECT ON THE APRIL 1ST BILLING CYCLE. OKAY. SEE, TIM, I WAS I WAS WRITING APRIL FOOL'S DAY. THE REASON I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS, AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT FOR YOU AS THE ATTORNEY, YOU DON'T KNOW ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WITH THE. BUT THEIR BUDGET IS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE SPENT A LITTLE BIT MORE, OR IF THAT'S A GOOD BULK OF WHAT WE HAVE. AND I KIND OF WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR, OF OUR SURPLUS IS, IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE SURPLUS IS FROM THE BUDGET, WHETHER IT'S REALLY HIGH, LOW OR. AND AGAIN, WE NEED TO MAINTAIN SURPLUSES IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES AND TO HAVE PROBABLY FAVORABLE BONDING JUST LIKE ONEIDA COUNTY. RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE GET A COPY OF THEIR BUDGET. WE GET A COPY OF YOUR BUDGET? YEP. GET THAT TO YOU. IT'D BE HELPFUL. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DOCKET? AND THE RATE INCREASE OF 2.9%? I BELIEVE I VOTED AGAINST RATE INCREASES IN THE PAST, NOT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THAT BIG INCREASE IN BOB. WHAT WAS THAT? DO YOU RECALL WHAT YEAR THAT WAS? WE HAD A BIG FIVE YEAR. 520, I THINK, BECAUSE IT WAS MY FIRST YEAR. FAIR ENOUGH. I REGRESS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.OPPOSED? THAT MOVES ON. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO 1215. WATER POLLUTION. THE TERMINATION OF TYPE TWO ACTION PURSUANT TO THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT CONCERNING AN ULTRAVIOLET DISINFECTION PROJECT. KARL SPOKE ON THIS ONE. ALSO LAST WEEK. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS FOR ANDY? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. LET'S GO TO AIRPORT 1063. THIS WOULD BE APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT TO CONSULTANT SERVICES. AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND CNS ENGINEERS, INC. QUESTIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION. AND WE GOT AIRPORT. AND THEN ONE OTHER ONE. TRANSFER OF 5501 AMENDMENT TO CAPITAL PROJECT H AIR 104. OBSTRUCTION MITIGATION.
QUESTIONS ON THIS COVERED LAST THURSDAY BY ED. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES MIKE WILL GOING BACK AROUND TO NUMBER ONE. ALL RIGHT. 1185 COUNTY ATTORNEY APPROVAL OF THE SETTLEMENT WITH DOROTHEA MILLER. AGAIN, IN
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MATTERS LEGAL MATTERS, APPROVAL OF SETTLEMENTS OR EVALUATIONS ON OUR EMPLOYEES, WE CAN GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'M GOING TO REQUEST TO GO. I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THIS. I'M GOING TO REQUEST WE GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY, WE GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THEN WE COME BACK AFTER AND WE VOTE ON THE DOCKET. EVERYBODY SHOULD BE LEAVING EXCEPT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND LEGISLATORS. AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSES IT. IF ANYBODY WAS OUT THERE. NO. IT'S KIND OF DISRESPECTFUL THAT WE CAN. ALL RIGHT, LET'S WE RECONVENE. LET'S CALL THE VOTE ON THIS TOPIC. THIS RESOLUTION IS 1185 COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE SETTLEMENT WITH DOROTHY MILLER AND EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT. AGAIN. ANY QUESTIONS WITH ME? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ON THE I. I POSED THE MOTION TO.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.