[Call to Order]
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OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY. SO WE'LL CALL AIRPORT COMMITTEE TO ORDER. WE'VE GOT THREE DOCKETS,
[a. 2024-1063 – AIRPORT RE: APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO CONSULTANT SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION, AND C & S ENGINEERS, INC. ]
TWO DOCKETS TONIGHT. FIRST UP IS 2024, 1063. AND THAT'S THE APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO CONSULTANT SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND CNS ENGINEERS. THERE HE IS. COME ON UP. THIS IS JUST A IN THE MASTER AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH CNS ENGINEERING, THAT THERE IS A OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST THE RATES THAT THEY CHARGE AND THEY ARE EXERCISING THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THERE'S NO CHARGE RIGHT NOW. IT'S FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. BUT WHAT IT IS IT FOLLOWS THE FAA GUIDELINES AS FAR AS CHARGING. SO WHEN THEY DO A PROJECT THEY MAY BUMP UP THEIR FEE, BUT IT STILL HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE FAA. IF IT'S ABOVE WHAT THE FAA WILL ACCEPT, THEN THEY THEY DON'T GET IT. ANYHOW. ALONG WITH THAT, IT'S OUR DUE DILIGENCE. WE HAVE TO DO SOME FAA WHICH ARE INDEPENDENT FEE STUDIES, AND WE SEND THEM OUT TO MATCH UP TO THEIR NUMBERS. AND IF THEY'RE CHEAPER, THEN WE GO WITH THE OTHER CONSULTANT. BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THEY CAN'T BUMP UP INTO THE RETROACTIVE ONLY FUTURE PROJECTS. YEP. SO WE'LL WE'LL KNOW WHAT IT IS. WE DON'T LIKE IT. RIGHT. AND ALSO THERE THE MASTER AGREEMENTS THAT THE AIRPORT HAS NOW ALL EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR. SO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT CONSULTANTS AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WANT TO LOOK AT THE AIRPORT. AND WE'LL BE PICKING CONSULTANTS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. HOW MANY DIFFERENT ONES ARE UP? HOW MANY DIFFERENT ONES ARE THERE THAT ARE UP? ALL FIVE OF THEM ARE. ENVIRONMENTAL CONTRACT WITH PLUMLEE WILL BE UP. PIZARRO AND CNS MCFARLAND-JOHNSON. AND SO ALL OF THEM WILL EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2025. WE'RE GETTING BIDS FOR PEOPLE TO DO WORK FOR US. IS THERE A DIFFERENT NUANCE OR SPECIALTY FOR PEOPLE, LIKE IS THERE FIRMS OUT THERE THAT KIND OF KNOW MORE ABOUT DRONES? IS THAT IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE CHANGING SOME OF THE COMPLEXITY OF WHAT WE DID, WE'VE BEEN DOING IS DOES THAT MATTER? LIKE, NOT ON THESE. THESE JUST HAVE TO BE THEY HAVE TO HAVE AERONAUTICAL AS FAR AS AIRPORTS GO. THAT'S WHAT YOU LOOK AND YOU HAVE TO RATE THEM WHEN WE GET THEM IN, SAY WE GET TEN CONSULTANTS APPLY THIS YEAR. WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM AND YOU RANK THEM TO SEE IF THEY FIT WHERE YOU WANT THEM AT THE AIRPORT. THEN YOU'LL GET THEM OUT THERE, AND THEN YOU'LL VOTE ON WHO YOU WANT AS YOUR CONSULTANTS. YEP. AND ISN'T A LOT OF THIS STUFF SIMILAR TO WHAT CARL'S DOING WITH JUST THE FACT THAT INFLATION HAS GONE UP SUCH THAT AT SUCH A RATE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, THAT IN ORDER TO FOR THE WORKFORCE TO, YOU KNOW, BE HAPPY, WE SEE IT WITH, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR IT WITH CORRECTIONS AND STUFF. SO AND IF INFLATION HADN'T GONE UP, IF IT STAYED IT, YOU KNOW. YEAH, YOU MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THIS AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR AN INCREASE. MIGHT NOT HAVE SEEN THIS. RIGHT. YEAH. AND THEN THAT SAID IT'S FOR CNS BUT CNS USES SUBCONTRACTORS. IS THIS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THEIR SUBS. LIKE LIKE WE TALKED THIS IS FOR LIKE FUTURE PROJECTS BUT LIKE ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS WE'RE ON NOW THAT WHICH WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ON MY NEXT DOCKET THE OBSTRUCTION MITIGATION WHERE WE'RE TAKING ALL THE TREES DOWN. THAT WAS BID LIKE LAST YEAR DEEP IN THE LAST YEAR. AND NOW WE'RE JUST FINISHING. AND PART OF THE PROJECT IS TO FLY IT WITH AN AIRCRAFT, AND WE HAVE TO MEASURE THE HEIGHTS OF THE TREES TO MAKE SURE WE DID WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO FOR THE FAA. YEAH, THEIR RATES ARE UP, BUT THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY BID OUT ON THEIR LAST YEAR'S CONTRACT. SO YEAH, SURE. IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.EVERYBODY HAS FUEL PRICES, RIGHT? SURE. YEAH. AND IS THERE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH I MEAN, HOW MUCH IT MAY GO UP? I MEAN, 5%, 5%. IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS THIS EXPLORATORY OR IS THIS WHEN WE APPROVE THIS, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE END GAME HERE IN TERMS OF. SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL SAY WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT COME UP, WHICH I DON'T SEE ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT IF A PROJECT DOES COME UP THEY'LL PUT THEIR COST ESTIMATES TOGETHER. YEAH. THEN IT GOES TO THE FAA IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE FAA, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THE FAA APPROVES IT BECAUSE THEN IT'S 100% FUNDED.
MOST OF THEM ARE 100% FUNDED BY THE FAA. SO YOU GET YOUR MONEY BACK. IT'S REALLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT'S PAYING THE INCREASE. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. BUT IF THIS AGREEMENT SAYS BACK HERE THAT IT'S EFFECTIVE AS OF JANUARY 1ST. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO RETRO. NO, IT'S ONLY NEW PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. SO FROM NEXT DAY ON THE 12TH OF FEBRUARY
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FORWARD. YEP. SO YEAH THEY CAN'T GO BACK THOUGH. NO BECAUSE THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE IN PLAY ARE ALREADY SIGNED UP AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO PAY IT. MY QUESTION IS IF THIS AGREEMENT EFFECTIVE AS OF JANUARY 1ST, IF WE'RE NOT GOING RETRO, SHOULDN'T SAY AS OF FEBRUARY 13TH. FROM THERE, I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. AND WHEN WE COME TO THE BOARD NEXT WEEK, IF YOU WANT, I'LL ADDRESS THAT.AND I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK, I THINK WHAT LEGISLATOR BUCK IS ASKING IS, WHY IS THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CONTRACT JANUARY 1ST? AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS NO NEW PROJECTS HAVE STARTED BETWEEN JANUARY 1ST AND FEBRUARY THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE NEW RATES. WE HAVE NO PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE NEGOTIATING RIGHT UP UNTIL TODAY. SO BY THE TIME YOU VOTE ON IT NEXT WEEK, I MEAN, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT A PROJECT MAYBE THIS SUMMER AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD SEE IT.
YEAH. SO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CONTRACT IS JANUARY 1ST, 2025 DAVE. BUT AS FAR AS PAYING NEW RATES, WE WON'T ACTUALLY PAY NEW RATES BECAUSE NO, NO NEW PROJECTS STARTED YET. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE SEEING NONE. WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED PASSES. NEXT ONE UP,
[b. 2025-1184 – AIRPORT RE: TRANSFER OF $5,500.00 AND AMENDMENT TO CAPITAL PROJECT H - AIR 104 – OBSTRUCTION MITIGATION ]
2025 1184. THIS IS A TRANSFER OF $5,500 TO AMENDMENT TO CAPITAL PROJECT HR1 HUNDRED FOR OBSTRUCTION MITIGATION. YEAH. THIS WAS A MATHEMATICAL ERROR THAT HAPPENED I BELIEVE AT AUDIT AND CONTROL. THIS IS THE CONTRACT THAT IS ALMOST FINISHED. NOW THE TREE REMOVAL AT GRIFFITHS. THIS IS THE FINAL PAYMENT. WE NEED 5500 TO BALANCE OUT THAT BUDGET. QUESTIONS.SEEING NONE. WE'LL CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE A TAKE A MOTION.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.