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WE'LL CALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO TAKE THE ROLL CALL. GOOD. ONE AND ONLY DOCKET TODAY
[a. 2024-0729 – SHERIFF RE: TRANSFER OF $1,100,00.00 TO A 3110 3110.251-000 – AUTOMOTIVE EQUIPMENT (SHERIFF) ]
IS 2024 0729. I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS WE MAY HAVE ON THIS DOCKET. DO YOU HAVE A BULLETPROOF VEST ON? YOU DON'T SAY NO, SHERIFF. ALL RIGHT. DID YOU DRIVE? SO I HAVE A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT I RECEIVED. I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THEM FIRST? IS, WOULD YOU PREFER. WOULD THAT BE EASIER? MAYBE SOME OF YOUR EXPLANATION WILL ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE I HAVE A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME FROM SOME FROM SOME DIFFERENT FOLKS. FIRST QUESTION WHY ISN'T THE AGREEMENT WITH ENTERPRISE WORKING? WE BELIEVE IT IS WORKING FROM OUR STANDPOINT AS FAR AS LOGISTICALLY AND OPERATIONALLY. WE ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO OBVIOUSLY PUT A LOT MORE NEW CARS ON THE STREET AND OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE OUR PEOPLE WITH WITH THE BEST AND SAFEST EQUIPMENT. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER POSITIONS ON THAT. IF WE'RE TALKING FINANCIAL, LOGISTICAL AS FAR AS GETTING VEHICLES. BUT OVERALL, I MEAN, WE'RE EXTREMELY SATISFIED WITH WITH OUR WITH OUR SITUATION CURRENTLY WITH ENTERPRISE. SECOND QUESTION, HOW LONG HOW LONG WOULD THE COUNTY PURCHASED ROAD PATROL VEHICLES BE KEPT IN SERVICE BY THE BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO TYPICALLY PRIOR TO THE ENTERPRISE RENT OR LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE HAD, WE WOULD RUN PATROL CARS, PREFERABLY TO NOT EXCEED 100 000 MILES AT THE TIME. PRIOR TO THIS, THERE WERE CARS. WE WERE ON FRONT LINE. CARS WERE 125, 135, 151, 60. AND THEN WHEN WE WOULD DO OUR INSURANCE RENEWALS OR INSURANCE INSPECTIONS, WHEN THEY WOULD COME UP, WE WOULD GET LETTERS OCCASIONALLY IN YEARS PAST THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE RUNNING THESE FRONT LINE CARS OVER 125 000 MILES. SO THE ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT, OBVIOUSLY, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO CURRENTLY WITH ENTERPRISE PATROL CARS FOR THE MOST PART ARE REPLACED EVERY TWO YEARS.UNMARKED CARS, TYPICALLY 3 TO 4 YEARS DEPENDING ON THE MILEAGE. THAT'S ON THEM. AGAIN, YOU TAKE LIKE OUR OUR SOME OF OUR PATROL AREAS ARE EXTREMELY YOU KNOW, WE COVER A LOT OF AREA LIKE TYPICALLY THE CAMDEN FIELD OFFICE. THOSE CARS WILL PUT ABOUT 75 000 MILES ON IN ONE YEAR. IF THEY'RE NOT ROTATED THROUGHOUT THE OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY. NEXT QUESTION DOES ENTERPRISE HANDLE OIL CHANGES AND MAINTENANCE ON LEASED VEHICLES? NO, THEY DO NOT.
THAT'S DONE IN-HOUSE EITHER BY DPW OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT DPW COULDN'T HANDLE, THEY WOULD SEND IT OUT TO AN OUTSIDE MECHANIC FOR THE WORK. HOW WOULD SWITCHING BACK TO COUNTY OWNED VEHICLES IMPACT YOUR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE REPAIR BUDGET? I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU LOOKING HISTORICALLY FOR YEARS LEADING UP TO PRIOR TO THE ENTERPRISE LEASE, THERE WERE YEARS OUR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND THIS WAS JUST PRINTED OFF FOR ME THIS MORNING SOMEWHERE IN THE THREE TO 4 TO $410,000 ANNUALLY ANNUALLY FOR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. THEN WE WENT INTO WHEN WE WENT INTO INTO ENTERPRISE LEASE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE IT DROPPED DOWN AS LOW AS 132, BUT THEN WHEN WE RAN INTO THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE WHERE WE COULDN'T GET CARS AT ALL, YOU COULD SEE THE BUMP BACK UP IN MAINTENANCE. SO IT'S A OVERALL, I THINK THE COMFORTABLE STATEMENT TO MAKE IS IF YOU'RE ABLE TO REPLACE CARS MORE REGULARLY, YOUR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN THAN USUAL. HOW MANY CARS IN YOUR FLEET? SO OVERALL WE HAVE THERE'S 106 TOTAL VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET. AND I AM NOT COUNTING LIKE THE BEARCAT OR COMMAND POST OR MARINE VEHICLES LIKE BOATS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. BUT ACTUAL VEHICLES, WHETHER PATROL CARS, VANS ASSIGNED TO CORRECTIONS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 106 IN HOW MANY MARKED PATROL CARS DO YOU HAVE? THERE ARE 49 MARKED PATROL CARS OUT OF THE 106. HOW MANY CORRECTIONS VEHICLES? THERE ARE 15 VEHICLES OUT OF THAT 106 ASSIGNED TO THE CORRECTIONS DIVISION. HOW MANY TAKE HOME CARS ARE THERE? THERE ARE CURRENTLY TODAY, 41 TAKE HOME CARS. AND FOR THOSE LEGISLATORS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, WHEN I FIRST TOOK OFFICE IN 2011, ONE OF MY FIRST THINGS THAT I ATTEMPTED TO DO WAS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TAKE HOME CARS. LET'S FIND MY NUMBERS HERE FROM BACK THEN. BUT WHAT I ATTEMPTED TO DO AT THE TIME WE HAD. SO AT THE TIME WHEN I TOOK OFFICE, THERE WERE 34 TAKE HOME CARS. I CAME IN, DID SOME REEVALUATING AND WE REMOVED TAKE HOME CARS FROM SEVEN PEOPLE,
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WHICH BROUGHT IT DOWN. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, A GRIEVANCE WAS FILED. WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IN THE END, WE LOST THE GRIEVANCE BECAUSE IT WAS ESTABLISHED THAT FROM PAST PRACTICE POSITIONS WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, NOT PEOPLE, BUT POSITIONS THAT WERE ISSUED TAKE HOME CARS, THEY WERE ENTITLED TO THOSE TAKE HOME CAR. SO PEOPLE GOING INTO THOSE POSITIONS, MOVING FORWARD, THEY HAD TO BE PROVIDED TAKE HOME VEHICLES. AGAIN, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH OR I DISAGREE WITH THAT, THAT RULING, BUT I HAD TO FOLLOW IT. SO ACTUALLY THAT YEAR AFTER WE WON THAT EVENTUALLY IT PROBABLY TOOK A YEAR OR TWO. BUT WE DID HAVE TO PAY THE PEOPLE A MONETARY AWARD TO MAKE UP THE TIME THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THEIR TAKE HOME CARS. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE GOING INTO THOSE POSITIONS FROM THAT POINT MOVING FORWARD ARE ISSUED TAKE HOME CARS. SO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE OR THE POSITIONS THAT HAVE TAKE HOME CARS INCLUDE MYSELF, THE UNDERSHERIFF, THE DEPUTY, THE DEPUTY CHIEF, DEPUTY OF PATROL, CHIEF DEPUTY OF CORRECTIONS, CHIEF DEPUTY OF THE CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER, CAPTAINS WITHIN THE PATROL DIVISION, LIEUTENANTS WITHIN THE PATROL DIVISION, INVESTIGATORS ASSIGNED TO OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION UNIT, OUR FORENSICS IDENTIFICATION UNIT, OUR NARCOTICS UNIT, OUR WARRANTS UNIT, AND K9 DEPUTIES. THEY ALL ARE HAVE TAKE HOME CARS. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT 41 TOTAL NUMBER COMES FROM. LET'S SEE HOW MANY CARS CURRENTLY IN YOUR FLEET PREDATE THE AGREEMENT WITH ENTERPRISE. OUT OF THE 106 VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FLEET CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 28 OF THEM THAT ARE STILL COUNTY OWNED VEHICLES OUT OF THE 106. SO 78 OF OUR 106 ARE CURRENTLY LEASED VEHICLES FROM ENTERPRISE. SO IT'S APPROXIMATELY AN UNDERSHERIFF. YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S 1.5 MILLION TO LEASE 78 CARS ANNUALLY THROUGH ENTERPRISE TO PURCHASE A PATROL CAR. IT'S ABOUT $55,000, PLUS THE UPFIT. AND THEN THE LAST SET OF QUESTIONS, HOW MANY CARS HAS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RECEIVED OVER THE PAST YEARS THROUGH ENTERPRISE? SO IN 2019 INTO 2020, WE ATTEMPTED TO ACQUIRE 40 FROM ENTERPRISE, BUT OUR FIRST SHIPMENT WAS 33. THE FOLLOWING YEAR, 20 WE HOPE TO ACQUIRE 16. WE RECEIVED SIX. IN 21 WE HOPE TO RECEIVE 16 AGAIN. WE RECEIVED 9 IN 2022. OUR GOAL WAS TO RECEIVE 20. WE RECEIVED 22 THAT YEAR. SO WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE UP AT LEAST A COUPLE FROM THE YEAR BEFORE 2023. OUR OUR PLAN WAS TO ACQUIRE 29. WE RECEIVED 12. SO THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT DROP THERE. AND THEN 2024 TO DATE 27 VEHICLES. SO ALL IN ALL, WE'VE RECEIVED OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, 109 VEHICLES FROM ENTERPRISE, 31 OF THEM HAVE GONE BACK BECAUSE THEY TAKE THEM BACK WHEN THEY'RE THE MILEAGE IS WAS IS AT A POINT WHERE THEY CAN STILL RESELL THEM. AND LIKE I SAID, THAT GIVES US THE TOTAL OF THE 78 REMAINING VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET THAT ARE ENTERPRISE LEASE VEHICLES. THE OTHER ISSUE IS, I WAS ADVISED THAT THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH ENTERPRISE IS NOT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF I WHAT WORD I SHOULD USE, BUT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE OR ADEQUATE OR LEGAL. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT TERM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE. SO I THINK THAT'S HOW THIS CONVERSATION FIRST BEGAN TO START. SO WE MADE THE CALL I'M SORRY. WHAT'S THAT. SO IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH IT WHO MADE THE CALL. WELL AGAIN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE APPARENTLY THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE CONTRACT NOT BEING LEGAL FROM FIVE YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNTY ATTORNEY. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M USING THE RIGHT TERM WHEN I SAY THAT. SO THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE WAY THAT THAT CONTRACT HAS FUNCTIONED SPECIFICALLY, WE MADE A DETERMINATION THAT THOSE LEASES ARE NOT TRUE LEASES BECAUSE OF THE EQUITY PROVISION. THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS.THERE'S AN EQUITY PROVISION IN THOSE WHICH, YOU KNOW, WOULD LEGALLY DEEM THAT TO BE NOT A TRUE LEASE. ALSO, IT MAKES US RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE ON THE VEHICLE. THERE'S THE UPFITTING REQUIREMENT THAT IS ANCILLARY TO IT. THAT'S ALSO AN ISSUE. SO THEY'RE NOT A TRUE LEASE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO BE PROCURED BY A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. WHAT THEY REALLY ARE IS AN INSTALLMENT PURCHASE CONTRACT. AN INSTALLMENT PURCHASE CONTRACTS ARE GOVERNED BY A SEPARATE SECTION OF GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW. ALSO, WHEN WE WHEN THIS CAME UP, THE AGREEMENT
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WITH ENTERPRISE. SO THE AGREEMENT EXPIRED AND WE MADE A DETERMINATION THAT WE COULD NOT PROCURE THAT SERVICE IN THE SAME WAY AS IT HAD BEEN PROCURED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THESE CONTRACTS ARE BEING ENTERED INTO. SO THERE IS A THERE THERE IS A ANOTHER METHOD OF DOING IT WOULD BE SIMILAR. IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME, IT WOULD BE AN INSTALLMENT PURCHASE CONTRACT OR THE METHOD FOR FOSTERING THAT. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO PURCHASE THE VEHICLES ON A PUBLIC BID AND MAKE THEM AN OUTRIGHT PURCHASE AS OPPOSED TO AN INSTALLMENT PURCHASE. SO THERE'S NO CHOICE RIGHT NOW. THIS IS A DONE DEAL. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? PRETTY MUCH. AT THIS POINT, THERE WOULD BE NO CHOICE FOR PURCHASING A VEHICLE WITHOUT GOING OUT TO BID ON A PURCHASE CONTRACT. AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT HOW TO WORK. I'M TALKING ABOUT REGARDING OUR REGARDING OUR OUR OUR AGREEMENT WITH ENTERPRISE. THAT'S A THAT'S A DONE DEAL HAS EXPIRED. IT IS NOT IN PLACE. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF RENEWING THAT. OKAY. SO IF IT'S A PROBLEM NOW THOUGH, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE EXISTING VEHICLES? I MEAN, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AT 78 VEHICLES STILL HANGING OUT BY THAT POINT, RIGHT. WE ARE WE ARE CURRENTLY WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER AGREEMENT FOR VEHICLES AND THEY WILL EXTEND FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME EACH VEHICLE YOU ACTUALLY SIGN A LEASE LIKE YOU AND I WOULD IN ADDITION TO THE MASTER, THIS IS A MASTER LEASE THAT WAS FIVE YEARS THAT IT'S UP EVERY TIME WE CALL FOR A VEHICLE FOR THE SHERIFF, WE WOULD SIGN OFF ON THAT. BASICALLY COMMITTING THE COUNTY TO A PERIOD OF TIME FOR THOSE VEHICLES. LIKE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MAYBE SIX COMING IN THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO, BUT WE WILL NOT EXTEND THAT TO THAT.SO WE'LL STILL BE DOING BUSINESS WITH ENTERPRISE PROBABLY FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS, UNTIL THOSE SUNSET OUT, WHICH WOULD BE THAT 1.1 MILLION, APPROXIMATELY 500,000 OF THAT IS FOR THE CONTINUING LEASE PAYMENTS TO ENTERPRISE. IT'S NOT $1.1 MILLION OF BRAND NEW CARS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT LETTER ISN'T BROKEN DOWN. IT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT IT'S NOT 1.1 THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO AND BUY $1.1 MILLION WORTH OF CARS AT 500 IS FOR ENTERPRISE FOR THE BALANCE OF THIS YEAR. CORRECT. AFTER THE END OF THIS, THEY'LL STILL BE A NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE SOLD. THIS WILL CONTINUE INTO. RIGHT. SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE BUDGET IS A LINE FOR PURCHASING VEHICLES AND THEN A LINE FOR CONTINUING A LEASE, CORRECT. PAYMENTS GO AWAY IN THE LONGEST ONE WE HAVE OUT THERE IS THREE YEARS FROM NOW. IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY. 333 YEARS. THREE. OKAY. YEAH. THE CARS THAT ARE COMING IN NOW, THE REMAINING ONES WOULD BE A 2 TO 3 YEAR LEASE ON THEM. YEP. SO THE 500,000 BECAUSE WHAT MAKES IT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE ON. THAT'S WHY WE ASK FOR ADDITIONAL. BUDGET RIGHT. BECAUSE AGAIN A PROBLEM WE DIDN'T HAVE FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE. WE ACTUALLY GOT MORE CARS. NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MORE CARS IN THAN WE HAD PLANNED FOR BECAUSE OF THE CARS FROM THE YEARS BEFORE THAT WE COULDN'T GET BECAUSE OF THE SUPPLY SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE PRIOR TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUR FLEET UP, BECAUSE AS OF TODAY, WE RAN THE NUMBERS. I'VE GOT ALMOST 25 VEHICLES THAT ARE OVER 80 000 MILES. TEN OF THEM ARE OVER 100,000 MILES. I MEAN, THESE ARE THESE VEHICLES ARE WE PUT A LOT OF MILES ON AND YEAH, THE VEHICLES THAT WE DIDN'T DO PRIOR, TO WHICH WE DIDN'T. NO, THAT IS CORRECT. 500,000 CARRIED OVER MONEY. WELL IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE PRICE OF VEHICLES GOES UP EACH YEAR TOO. SO THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE AT HAND. SOME OF THAT MONEY IS PREVIOUSLY IN THEORY, YES, YES, YES. WELL IT'S NOT PHYSICALLY IN FRONT OF US. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR THE VEHICLES BECAUSE THE, THE TWO SETS OF NUMBERS I WAS THROWING AT YOU, THE VEHICLES WE WERE TRYING TO PLAN FOR, AND COMPARED TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY ACQUIRED. SO EVERY YEAR, IF WE NEEDED TO REPLACE 25 VEHICLES, BUT ONLY GOT 15, WE'VE ALREADY NOW WE'RE BEHIND THE WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL BY TEN IN THOSE MILES AND MILES AND MAINTENANCE ON THE TEN CARS THAT WE CAN'T REPLACE ARE BEING HELD UP OR GOING UP.
SO IT'S LIKE THAT SNOWBALL GOING DOWN THE HILL BECAUSE THE CARS DON'T STOP. I CAN JUST ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN I BUDGETED THIS IS WHEN WE BUDGETED LAST YEAR WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT WE WERE GOING TO GET BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE WERE BECAUSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S COMPLICATED WITH COVID. IT'S ALSO COMPLICATED BECAUSE THESE DEALERS FORD, FOR EXAMPLE,
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CLOSES THE WINDOW WHEN YOU CAN ORDER NEW VEHICLES. SO FORD CLOSED THE WINDOW ON US LAST YEAR, SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE GOING TO GET THIS YEAR. A LOT OF THOSE CARS THAT WE GOT, WE GOT OFF LOTS THAT WERE SPARE. SO WHEN I DID THE BUDGET AND IT WAS ON ME, I DID THE BUDGET I BUDGETED. WE DID LAST YEAR BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE WHAT WE WERE GETTING. WE GOT $500,000 MORE VEHICLES THAN WE EXPECTED. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A $500,000 INCREASE. BUT AND THAT'S AND THAT'S THAT BECAUSE THE YEAR YEARS BEFORE WE WERE BUDGETING AND BECAUSE OF COVID, WE COULDN'T GET ANY VEHICLES. AND WHAT WE ORDERED IN 2024, WE WILL GET IN 25. BUT IF YOU ORDERED IN 20, IF YOU ORDERED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU FORD WASN'T GOING TO LET YOU HAVE THOSE VEHICLES.IT'S VERY IT'S VERY COMPLICATED THE WAY. AND I NEVER KNEW IT UNTIL I GOT INTO IT WHEN THEY CLOSED THE WINDOW ON ORDERING VEHICLES. THESE AND YOU CAN ONLY GET FORD. WE GOT FORD EXPLORERS BECAUSE FORD EXPLORERS ARE THE SAME VEHICLE NO MATTER WHAT. THE TIRES FIT ALL OF OUR VEHICLES.
BRAKES FIT ALL OF OUR VEHICLES. WE DON'T HAVE CHEVY PATROL VEHICLES OR DODGE PATROL VEHICLES RIGHT NOW. WE GOT ALL WE GOT ALL FORD EXPLORERS, AND THAT'S WHY WE DID THAT. AND THEY'RE JUST TOUGH TO GET BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY MANUFACTURERS THAT MAKE A PATROL VEHICLE, SO THEY SEND YOU MORE THAN YOU ORDERED THEM. WE WERE ABLE TO GET MORE THAN WE ORDERED. WE KNOW WE WANTED THAT AMOUNT, BUT WE WEREN'T GUARANTEED THAT AMOUNT. SO UNLESS YOU GET A BUDGET, THAT'S CORRECT, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO AGAIN, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO, LIKE I JUST SAID, MAKE UP FOR THE CARS THAT WE'VE MISSED IN PAST YEARS TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP TO GET CAUGHT UP. SO, SO OF THIS MONEY, HOW MUCH OF THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE USED TO PURCHASE NEW VEHICLES? 1.0 IS $200,000, 500,006, 600,000 500,000 TO 2 ENTERPRISE AND 600,000. THERE'S A LOT OF VEHICLES WITH OVER 100,000 MILES AND OVER 80 000 MILES. THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. CORRECT. HOW MANY OF THE NEW VEHICLES YOU'RE BUYING ARE REPLACING THOSE VEHICLES? YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED? I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC VEHICLES. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I'M I CAN I MEAN, THERE'S IF THEY'RE PATROL CARS COMING IN, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO PATROL. THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE HIGHEST MILEAGE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY DOING, TRYING TO GET RID OF SOMETHING THAT IS AT ITS LIFE'S END. SO ARE YOU.
BASICALLY, YOU'RE GETTING TEN CARS. YEP. AND AT THE END OF THOSE TWO YEARS, ARE YOU PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS AT THE TOP? ALWAYS ON A PATROL CAR? ALWAYS, ALWAYS. WE'VE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IN YEARS PAST WE'VE RUN THEM LONGER THAN TWO YEARS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE OVER THE BUCK AND A QUARTER FOR MILEAGE. IT'S JUST IT'S. YEAH. AND AGAIN YOU'RE PUTTING A FIRST RESPONDER ON A IN A FRONTLINE VEHICLE WITH OVER 100,000 MILES. YOU KNOW, IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO AND NOT A FEW A FEW MONTHS AGO. WASN'T THIS A TOPIC THEN TO WERE YOU WEREN'T WE PURCHASING VEHICLES IN THE PAST? BECAUSE I KNOW BRINGING UP ABOUT THE CORRECTIONS VEHICLES THAT GO TO AND FROM WELL THE CORRECTIONS ISSUE THAT CAME UP A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT IT. WHAT WAS I DON'T REMEMBER.
WE COULDN'T GET VANS FOR CORRECTIONS. WE STILL HAVE ISSUES GETTING CORRECTIONS VANS.
WE HAVE WHAT MAKES THE CORRECTIONS VAN SO HARD TO GET. WELL, IT'S A CARGO VAN. I MEAN, JUST I'M NOT I'M NOT THE CAR GUY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S. IS IT A 12 PASSENGER VAN WITH A CAGE? IT'S VERY SIMPLE. NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S VERY SIMPLE. THERE'S ONLY ONE MANUFACTURER THAT MAKES AN ALL WHEEL DRIVE VAN, WHICH WE NEED FOR CORRECTIONS. WE DON'T NEED A TWO WHEEL DRIVE VAN. SO YOU HAVE TO GET A FORD AGAIN. CORRECT. AND EVERYBODY WANTS THOSE. WELL, THEY'RE REALLY THE ONLY ONES THAT MAKE THAT FORD CARGO VANS ON ORDER FOR FOUR YEARS ON BACK ORDER. TRY TO GET NOW WE GOT TWO OTHER BANDS THAT CAME IN AND WE WERE ABLE TO PROCURE THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALL WHEEL DRIVE, SO WHEN THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO DIFFERENT AREAS LIKE ALBION, OR THEY'RE GOING DOWN TO BUFFALO WITH WITH INMATES AND 14 INMATES IN A VAN, THEY WANT AN ALL WHEEL DRIVE VAN. I CAN'T BLAME THEM. RIGHT. AND TO AND FROM COURT SOMETIMES. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE HOLDUP. WE ORDERED THEM. WE JUST COULDN'T GET THEM. WELL I CAN BECAUSE WHERE I WORK THE SAME ISSUE. BUT WE HAD TO GET THEM A DIFFERENT COLOR LIKE THAT. YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS WITH ENTERPRISE. ONCE WE MADE THOSE DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLES. SO THEY'RE AVAILABLE. I AGREE WITH YOU. THEY'RE HARD TO GET, BUT. YOU PUT A BID OUT FOR A VAN. WE DID. THAT'S HOW WE GOT THE TWO WHEEL DRIVE. BUT THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVES, WE COULDN'T FIND THEM. AT LEAST THE RENTAL PRICE FOR IT. WHAT ABOUT MERCEDES? WHAT ABOUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MAKE AN ALL WHEEL DRIVE AND THEY DO. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT COST. WE LEFT THE ENTERPRISE THROUGH THAT. SO THAT COST MORE. ISN'T SURE. WELL, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. RIGHT.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT'S. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. JULIAN, ONE OF THE MICHIGAN, GOT THE VEHICLE LEASED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ENTERPRISE. THE LEASING COMPANY CAN IN FACT, SELL COUNTY OWNED VEHICLES WHEN THEY'RE TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE AT COUNTY OWNED SERVICES. THE COUNTY LEASED THE COUNTY OWNED? YEAH, WE SELL OUR OWN VEHICLES AND THERE'S A CHANGE IN LEASE
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PERIOD FROM 2 TO 4 YEARS TO TWO YEARS WAS MADE UP BECAUSE THE PATROL VEHICLES IS RUNNING A HIGHER MILEAGE ANNUALLY THAN ANTICIPATED. AND WE WOULD I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE WAS. THERE WAS THAT WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN ENTERPRISE CAME IN AND DID THEIR SURVEY, WE WERE DOWN 17 TO 18 YEAR OLD DEPUTIES. SO THEY BASED THEIR SURVEY ON THE FACT THAT HOW MANY, HOW MUCH MILES WERE ON OUR VEHICLES THAT WERE EXISTING IN OUR FLEET. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS THOSE POSITIONS WERE SUBSEQUENTLY FILLED, HENCE THE MILEAGE WENT UP. SO WE HAD A PROBLEM GOING FROM A THREE YEAR PATROL LEASE. WE WENT BACK TO A TWO YEAR PATROL LEASE. SO I KNOW WE DO A LOT OF TRAINING IN ANTICIPATION OF HAVING MORE CONFIDENCE IN. THE NEW SYSTEM THAT 41 TAKE HOME VEHICLE THAT IS CORRECT. YES. SAY 11, 12 YEARS AGO WE HAD 34 AND TOOK AWAY 727. BUT THEY ALL WENT BACK. YEP. AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL ONES CAME FROM ADDIN.SO AGAIN, WHEN A POSITION IS ADDED OR CREATED THAT FALLS IN THE LINE OF THAT DECISION FROM PERB THAT WE LOST YEARS AGO. SO WHEN WE ADDED TWO INVESTIGATORS TO THE CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER, WE ADDED AN INVESTIGATOR TO THE WARRANTS UNIT, WE ADDED AN INVESTIGATOR TO THE FORENSICS UNIT. WE HAVE A PERSON WHO NOW HANDLES AN INVESTIGATOR. JUST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALLS. WE ADDED TWO K-9S. SO ALL THE THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE EXTRA TAKE HOME CAR IS COMING EXACTLY FROM FROM SO WHEN SOMEONE COMES INTO THAT POSITION OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO HAVE A TAKE HOME CAR. AND IN MANY CASES THE TAKE HOME CAR, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEING PRIMARILY A RURAL AGENCY, WE HAVE MULTIPLE MEMBERS WHO ARE PART OF OUR SWAT TEAM. THEY HAVE ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT IN THE CAR. SO IF YOU HAVE A SWAT TEAM MEMBER THAT LIVES IN CAMDEN AND THERE'S A STANDOFF THAT'S IN CAMDEN OR ANNVILLE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY TO A RISK. AND YOU GET THEIR STUFF AND GO BACK. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CRITICAL FOR US IN ADDITION TO AEDS AND FIRST AID KITS AND ALL THAT STUFF IS IN THEIR VEHICLES. SO THE CONTRACT STIPULATES. THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ON CARDS AND SAY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. CORRECT? WELL, YOU CAN'T GIVE AN INVESTIGATOR WHO'S WORKING MAJOR CRIMES AND A PREVIOUSLY MARKED CAR. I MEAN, IT'S WE RUN A PROFESSIONAL AGENCY, ACCREDITED AGENCY. I MEAN, YOU TECHNICALLY YOU'RE RIGHT. WHAT WE DO WITH OUR OUR THE CARS THAT ARE WORSE THAN OUR FLEET, THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RESPONDING 100 MILES AN HOUR TO A CALL 30 MILES AWAY. THEY'RE THEY'RE DRIVING FROM OUR OFFICE TO A SCHOOL. SAME THING WITH THESE INVESTIGATORS. LIKE I SAID, THAT THAT SAME INVESTIGATOR EXAMPLE, I JUST GAVE YOU, THE ONE THAT LIVES IN CAMDEN, COULD EASILY BE DISPATCHED TO A STANDOFF WITH THE REGIONAL SWAT TEAM IN UTICA. I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE THEM DRIVING HIGH SPEEDS AT, YOU KNO, WITH WITH A CAR THAT'S GOT 150,000 MILES ON IT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST. SECOND QUESTION. MR. THANK YOU. YEAH. I MEAN, WITH AMANDA'S DESCRIPTION HERE, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DEFINITELY CAN'T GO WITH THE LEASE ANY LONGER. SO I THINK THAT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION. BUT. WELL, I HOPEFULLY IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN REVISIT DOWN THE ROAD EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IN A, IN A MORE LEGAL FASHION. AGAIN, IT WAS I MEAN THE I DIDN'T DRAW UP THE CONTRACT BUT. RIGHT. WELL AS FAR AS TODAY, MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO GO I MEAN IT'S EXPIRED. THE CONTRACT WE HAVE NOW DOESN'T EXIST, BUT IT'S I MEAN, YOU SAID LOGISTICALLY THIS WAS WORKING OUT FOR YOU YET IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS GETTING THE CARS WE NEEDED. WELL, THAT WAS A SUPPLY ISSUE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, AS THOUGH. BUT DO YOU THINK IT WAS ENTERPRISE THAT WAS THE STUMBLING BLOCKS? I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO KNOW IF ANYBODY COULD GET CARS, DIRT BETWEEN COVID AND THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. WE HAD TO CALL ON A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN A BIG BACKLOG FOR ALL THE CARTOONS, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WERE NO CARS, A CAR DEALER, LOTS. HENCE THERE WERE NO CARS AVAILABLE FOR ENTERPRISE. SO THAT WAS A PROBLEM. WE NEVER, WHEN WE GOT IT THAT OLD. THERE'S A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM, AND WHEN MR. JULIA MENTIONED ABOUT SELLING VEHICLES, THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM, WHEN THEY PRESENT YOU THE PROGRAM, THEY WANT TO SELL YOUR VEHICLES AND USE THAT MONEY, GIVE IT BACK AS A CREDIT. OUR OWN VEHICLES THAT WE COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE OUR COUNTY CHARTER WON'T LET US. THE ISSUE NOW BECOMES THAT WE'RE TRYING WHEN WE GET WHEN WE GET A VEHICLE THAT WE'RE WE HAVE EQUITY IN THAT VEHICLE THAT'S ALSO BEING INCLUDED BECAUSE OF THE LEGALITIES THAT COMES BACK TO US AS A CREDIT. WE CAN'T DO THAT. THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE LEASE. BUT THE BACKLOG CAME FROM THE FACT THAT COVID WRAPPED UP AND COVID BACKED THE CAR MANUFACTURERS OFF. HENCE WE COULDN'T GET VEHICLES. SO, YOU KNOW, THE ENTERPRISE WAS THE STUMBLING BLOCK. THEY WEREN'T THE BOTTLENECK. IT WAS MORE THE SUPPLY. DEFINITELY. IT WAS DEFINITELY THE DEALER, THE MANUFACTURERS AND IF YOU WENT BY LOTS AT THAT TIME, IF I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER LOTS WERE EMPTY. THEY WERE THEY WERE GETTING
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THREE TIMES THE STICKER PRICE FOR CARS BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET CARS. WE WERE IN THE SAME BOAT AND WE WERE ALREADY PLOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRANSITION FROM OUR COUNTY VEHICLES TO ENTERPRISE. I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING, BASED ON WHAT COLLIN WAS SAYING, HOW, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT SOME JUST BY SWITCHING CARS. I DIDN'T KNOW IF ENTERPRISE WAS THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTLENECK, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT THE CASE. I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS THE THERE'S ABOUT 15 OTHER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICES THAT HAVE THAT DO THE SAME THING WITH ENTERPRISE. AND OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK CITY CITY, THERE'S 15 ERIE, DELAWARE, OTSEGO, STEUBEN, LOUIS, ALLEGANY, CHAUTAUQUA, CORTLAND, GENESEE, MADISON, ONTARIO, OSWEGO, SENECA, SAINT LAWRENCE AND TOMPKINS. THEY CURRENTLY WORK WITH ENTERPRISE. SO DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS FINANCIALLY WAS WORKING OUT BETTER FOR US WITH THE LEASE AGREEMENT? I'M. I MEAN, WE DO BECAUSE AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF $1.1 MILLION, PURCHASING OR LEASING 78 CARS A YEAR, I MEAN, YOU CAN'T PURCHASE 78 CARS FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT 78 TIMES 55,000 IS, BUT IT'S SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE A BIG. YEAH, IT'S A LOT MORE THAN BUT BUT AGAIN I LOOK AT MY MAIN THING HERE IS TO GET MY PEOPLE SAFE VEHICLES FOR THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS. AND AGAIN, I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER WAY WE CAN DO IT. I JUST WE JUST NEED TO DO IT BECAUSE EVERY, EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY, THE MILES ARE RACKING UP AND ON OUR EXISTING FLEET. SO IF IT'S ONE, IF IT'S 1.1 TO LEASE THESE, WHAT WOULD YOU 1.5 I'M SORRY, 1.5.5. YES. WHAT WOULD IT BE IN BUYING AND WHAT'S YOUR PROJECTION FOR OVER $3 MILLION. 3 MILLION. RIGHT. YOU JUST DID THE MATH YOU SAID.RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. 55,000 TIMES 78. YEAH YEAH YEAH. SO OKAY. WELL AT SOME POINT THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEM BACK. AND IF WE'RE NOT READY TO GIVE THEM BACK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPLACE THEM, I'M ASSUMING THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL COSTS ON TOP OF THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO HAND THEM BACK IN NEXT YEAR. CORRECT. THERE'S 20 WHAT GOES BACK NEXT YEAR? 22. CORRECT. RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY FOR THE CARS. HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IF THEIR PATROL CARS TWO YEARS MILEAGE WISE? I MEAN AS LONG AS THEY'RE MAINTAINED THEY'RE STILL A GOOD CAR. BUT AGAIN WHEN YOU BUY THE MAINTENANCE SERVICE, YOU KNOW, IN-HOUSE THE SERVICE IS DONE. I MEAN, WE HAVE AN AWESOME RELATIONSHIP WITH DPW. THEY DO ALL THE SERVICE WORK ON THEM. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, HAS TO GO OUT, IT GETS SENT OUT. IF WE'RE BUYING IT, WE GO OUT TO BID AND THEN IT'D BE THE BID PROCESS. AND UNDER WARRANTY? OH, ABSOLUTELY. NO. THEY COME WITH A WARRANTY. SO YOU'RE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WARRANTY IS. IT'S A STANDARD MILEAGE. IT'S IS IT THE IT'S THE THREE YEAR 36. WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. I THINK. YEAH. WE'RE OUT OF WARRANTY ON A PATROL CAR AND PROBABLY EIGHT MONTHS. YEAH, YEAH YEAH, YEAH. IN THE 2020, IN A 3110. OKAY.
EQUIPMENT. THE LAST TWO YEARS IT'S BEEN $770,860. YEP. HOW MUCH OF THAT IS USED FOR VEHICLES. SO ALL OF IT. ALL OF IT. SO I'M LOOKING BECAUSE WE STARTED IN 19 WHEN WE FIRST WHEN WE TOOK THE FIRST 19 INTO 20, WE TOOK THE FIRST STEP INTO THE INTO THAT THEY ACTUALLY ENTERPRISE PROJECTED SOME OF THESE NUMBERS FOR US. AND THEN WHEN IT LEVELS OUT OBVIOUSLY, WELL, IN THEORY IT SHOULD GO BACK. IT SHOULD LEVEL BACK OUT. BUT THAT 770,000 IS JUST FOR THE LEASE. THE LEASING OF YOUR VEHICLES. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. SURE. A PART OF THE 78, BUT THAT'S 78 VEHICLES THAT WE'RE LEASING FOR THAT MONEY. I UNDERSTAND CARS 58,004.2 MILLION. SO 4.2 MILLION TO BUY THE FLEET. WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WE'RE OPEN TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO. I JUST I JUST GOT TO KEEP MY PEOPLE IN GOOD CARS. SO IT'S 7.2 MILLION FOR TWO YEARS. YOU'RE BASICALLY INCREASING THE WHOLE FLEET. WELL, THE GOAL WITH ENTERPRISE IS TO DO A FLEET REPLACEMENT. THE CARS LAST TWO YEARS, PATROL CARS. SO THE OTHER VEHICLES, WHETHER IT'S FORENSICS WARRANTS, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION UNIT, THE 50 MARK CAR. YEP. 49 OF THOSE. YEAH. YEP. OF THESE 41 TAKE HOME VEHICLES YOU'RE GOING TO GET 3 TO 4, 3 TO 4 YEARS OUT OF THOSE CARS. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. TAKE HOME VEHICLES THAT IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO BASICALLY IT'S SO THE ENTIRE FLEET SHOULD ROTATE THROUGH EVERY FOUR, 4 TO 5 YEARS. WELL YEAH. BUT IF HALF
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OF THE FLEET IS EVERY TWO CORRECT, IT IS EVERY TWO YEARS. THAT IS CORRECT. THE OTHER HALF IS 3 TO 4 YEARS. YES. MORE THAN THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET? I HAVE A QUESTION.GO FOR IT. SO WE CAN'T WE CAN'T GO WITH ENTERPRISE IN SPITE OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE CONTINUING WITH THAT. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT EACH OTHER MUNICIPALITY IS DOING. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THEY PROCURED IT UNDER 190, WHICH IS A PURCHASE INSTALLMENT CONTRACT. AS OPPOSED TO THIS, THIS BEING THE ARRANGEMENT THAT WE HAVE DONE. I ALSO KNOW THAT THAT MAYOR BEASLEY HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MR. IN ORANGE COUNTY, WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY SPEAKING WITH ENTERPRISE IN THE SAME MANNER THAT WE WERE AND THEY HAVE MADE THE DETERMINATION AS WELL THAT THAT WAS NOT PROCURED PROPERLY AND THAT THEY CAN'T CONTINUE. SO YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION FOR US BECOMES WHETHER WE WANT TO PURCHASE VEHICLES OUTRIGHT OFF OF A PUBLIC BID FOR PURCHASE WITH THE COUNTY OR WHETHER, IF OR IF PURCHASE INSTALLMENT CONTRACT. AND THOSE ARE REALLY THE TWO OPTIONS RIGHT NOW. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS THIS IS DESIGNED TO COVER TWO THINGS. ONE IS THE SHORTFALL TO PAY THE EXISTING LEASES THAT WE ARE BOUND TO, AND THE OTHER IS TO DO A PURCHASE OF SOME VEHICLES IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE BASED OFF OF BIDS THAT WERE PIGGYBACKING ON EXISTING. SO WE'LL BE GRABBING WHAT WE CAN. I MEAN, IS THAT A DECISION WE NEED TO MAKE NOW? IS THERE A BAND AID THAT WE CAN APPLY UNTIL WE DO SOME RESEARCH AND FIND OUT WHICH METHOD IS THE MORE THIS IS THE THIS IS THE BAND AID. THIS IS THE BAND AID. WHAT WE'RE BUYING, WE WANT TO BUY HOW MANY CARS ARE RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN'T WE CAN'T CONTINUE. WE CAN'T CONTINUE LEASING ANY OTHER VEHICLES GOING FORWARD. NO, NOT NEW LEASES. NOT NOT NEW ONES. NO. UNLESS THERE'S A NEW CONTRACT, YOUR CONTRACT. YEAH.
YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHEN DO WE EXPECT THAT TO COME TO US. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 500.
WHAT'S THAT. WELL AGAIN IT WOULDN'T BE A LEASE CONTRACT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN INSTALLMENT PURCHASE CONTRACT, WHICH IF THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, WHEN SHOULD WE. WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE BID OUT TO AN INSTALLMENT PURCHASE CONTRACT. YES. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. ARE THERE VEHICLES THAT THAT SO THESE THESE THESE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE INITIALLY RIGHT NOW OUR VEHICLES THAT ARE NEAR THE 100,000 MILE. THAT IS CORRECT OR OVER. YEAH I HAVE MY LIST. I COULD YEAH WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE ONES THAT ARE OVER 100 ALTOGETHER. THERE'S 23 VEHICLES THAT ARE OVER 80,000 AND I BELIEVE 13 OF THEM ARE OVER 100,000 OF THOSE. THOSE ARE ROAD PATROL VEHICLES. THEY ALL ARE. THAT'S WHERE THE HIGH MILEAGE VEHICLES ARE. SO THESE THE NEW ONES YOU'RE PURCHASING ARE REPLACING ROAD PATROL VEHICLES. THAT'S CORRECT. 600,000. SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE KIND OF SHORT. BUT AGAIN WE'LL DO WE'LL WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN. I MEAN LIKE I SAID, OUR GOAL HERE IS TO JUST KEEP OUR PEOPLE IN GOOD CARS. SO. 808 ZONES ARE COVERED.
SIX PEOPLE WITH A SUPERVISOR, RIGHT? WITH A SUPERVISOR OR FIVE ON A SHIFT. SHIFT. THERE'S. TEN.
NINE INCHES. NINE IN A SUPERVISOR, SUPERVISOR, SERGEANT, LIEUTENANT AND. YEAH.
FOR SHIFT. ARE WE ABLE TO ACCESS THINGS FOR 21? LOOK, YOU'RE SAYING THEY NEED THEM RIGHT AWAY? WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO GE. THEM SIX CARS. YEAH. THAT'S IT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT AFTER THIS, LET'S SAY THAT YOU WERE GOING BY A CAR AND YOU. ONLY BUYING SIX CARS AT A PRICE COULD OFFER THAT. BUT IF IT'S IN THE SPECS, IF IT'S IN THE SPECS THAT WE CAN DO THAT. WE'RE JUST TAKING A MAJOR COST. RIGHT. THE TRANSMISSION IS IN SIX MONTHS. SO WE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. BEING A COMMERCIAL USE. AND ALSO BECAUSE. PUT IT OUT THERE, WE PUT IT UP FOR BID THA.
YEAH. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. WITH BEING NONE WILL TAKE THE VOTE. AND IF THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS WE CAN ASK THEM DURING WAYS AND MEANS ON WEDNESDAY. ALL THOSE IN
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FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? DOCKET PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GET KILLED. OH, GEORGE HASN'T CALLED ME IN TWO YEARS. WE'RE GOING TO START AGAIN. I'M GOING TO GET KILLED. THANKS. SO DON'T WORRY. THANK YOU. WHAT'S GOING ON? THIS IS. WE'RE BUYING. YOU KNOW WHAT? THESE ARE THE ONES THAT I SEE* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.