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ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT DOES CARRY. 0539 WOULD BE NEXT. APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND ELDER LIFE FORWARD. MOHAWK VALLEY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? 0540 APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. AND AGAIN, ELDER LIFE, INC. 54 MOHAWK VALLEY QUESTIONS. THIS WENT THROUGH COMMITTEE. WE HEARD SOME DISCUSSION AND EXPLANATION ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. 0541 APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. AND ELDER LIFE, INC. AGAIN 50 FORWARD, MOHAWK VALLEY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED THAT CARRIES. 0542 APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND ELDER LIFE, INC. 50 FORWARD MARK VALLEY. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS. IT'S. CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES.
0543. APPROVAL OF A PURCHASE OF SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND SENIOR CITIZENS COUNCIL OF ROME, NEW YORK CITY. COMMUNITY CONNECTION. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. THIS IS FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE APPROVAL OF AN. THIS IS 0668 APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY AND HOME CHAPEL MINISTRIES. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. OH 732 APPROVAL OF A OF A TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND VMC CONSULTANTS, INC. QUESTIONS. SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. NOW WE GO TO. OH SIX SEVEN FOR APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND CORNELL COOPERATIVE EXTENSION ASSOCIATION OF ONEIDA COUNTY. THIS WENT THROUGH PLANNING. DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU GOOD? GEORGE? ON THIS ONE. OKAY. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED THAT CARRIES. OH FIVE. 27. ANOTHER ONE FOR PLANNING AUTHORIZATION FOR ONEIDA COUNTY TO APPLY TO THE EMPIRE STATE DEVELOPMENT. CONNECT ALL OFFICE MUNICIPAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM. PHASE THREE GRANT OF UP TO $2,420,047. INSTALL BROADBAND INTERNET SERVICE INFRASTRUCTURE IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT ONEIDA COUNTY. JAMES WAS HERE
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EXPLAINED ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE. WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT? WHAT IS, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT IS EXPENDITURES IN THE FUTURE? AND I KIND OF ANY QUESTIONS FIRST OF ALL. NO QUESTIONS. THE KIND OF THREW IT OUT THERE. THERE'S COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY PARTICIPATED HAVE GOTTEN THE BENEFIT. SO I GUESS I ASK STEVE AND OBVIOUSLY THE REST OF THE GUYS ON THE COMMITTEE, NORM.MIKE, ARE YOU INVOLVED YET? IS YOUR COMMUNITY? NO ANY COMMENTS? YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE ABOUT THIS SO FAR? NO YOU'RE GOOD. SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SQUEAKY WHEEL I THINK ARE ANTED UP WITH SOME MONEY TO MY UNDERSTANDING. I MEAN THE RESIDENTS. OH OKAY.
WELL THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. AND WE WERE ABLE TO QUIET THEM. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. WELL THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A GOOD THING. COLIN'S NOT HERE TODAY, BUT I KNOW THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY, I BELIEVE, GOTTEN SOME BENEFIT. GET MORE BENEFIT. RIGHT. JAMES AUGUSTA AREA AUGUSTA NOW. OKAY. IT'S NOW. RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS STATEMENTS? LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO 0397. AGAIN THROUGH PLANNING APPROVAL OF FLOOD MITIGATION GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND THE VILLAGE OF BOONVILLE. QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE ON THIS. SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, DAVE PRESENTED A COMMITTEE APPROVAL OF A REVENUE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS OFFICE OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVE ON THIS? DAVE COVERED NOT ONLY THIS DOCKET, BUT HE WENT IN AND TALKED ABOUT A LOT THAT WAS GOING ON. ALL PRETTY POSITIVE.
WE APPRECIATE IT. AND YOU'VE BEEN AROUND FOR JUST UNDER 50 YEARS, DAVE, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, YES. YOU STARTED YOU STARTED WHEN YOU WERE ABOUT 14 OR 15 ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, YOU DID A NICE JOB. WE APPRECIATE EVERY BOARD HAS HIM ON IT. I KNOW, I KNOW. OKAY.
WELL, DAVE MATHESON THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT'S PRETTY PRETTY TRUE. YEAH. BUT DAVE DID CHIME IN, ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION HE WILL PROVIDE IN THE FUTURE ABOUT SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS. IT IS APPRECIATED. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. OPPOSED? NOBODY OPPOSED. IT PASSED. LET'S MOVE ON TO, AIRPORT 0700. ADVANCE APPROVAL OF GRANT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT. EXCUSE ME.
DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THROUGH ITS FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION. ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION 0700. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES.
ANOTHER ONE FOR AIRPORT IS 0701. IT'S ADVANCED APPROVAL OF THE GRANT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THROUGH ITS THROUGH THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION AND ONEIDA COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK, NEW YORK THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
AGAIN. 0701 QUESTIONS ON THIS. SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION THAT PASSES. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE SHERIFF. 0671 APPROVAL OF A TEMPLATE FOR SPECIAL PATROL OFFICERS. SPOUSE SERVICES TO BE USED BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS SHERIFF OFFICE AND VARIOUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS. AND THE SHERIFF SPOKE ON THIS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY. DO WE HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS? AM I MOVING TOO FAST THERE, TIM? WORRIED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK MISTER WATERMAN'S RECORD. THAT'S ALL.
JUST SLOW DOWN A LITTLE. PUT THE BRAKES ON. ALL RIGHT, I'LL SLOW IT DOWN. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF? SHERIFF, I KNOW YOU PRESENTED. WE'RE UP TO 120 PLUS SPOTS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS. AND IN JUST ABOUT EVERY EVERY SCHOOL, MINUS A FEW SCHOOLS. BUT FOR, OKAY, FOR OTHER ANCILLARY LOCATIONS, WHICH ARE QUITE A FEW. YOU ALSO INDICATED NOT ONLY ARE THE REIMBURSEMENTS NOW FROM THE SCHOOLS PAYING THE SALARY, BUT THERE'S SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES ADDITIONALLY. RIGHT. WE PAY THE SPO 26 AND SOME CHANGE PER HOUR OF THE COUNTY GIVES 29 AND SOME CHANGE FROM THE DISTRICTS. OKAY. THERE IS A FACTOR IN THERE. YOU INDICATED A POTENTIAL CONCERN WITH THE NUMBER THAT IS PRESENTLY NEEDED AND NEEDING A WAIVER FOR FULL
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TIMERS TO MEET THE CHALLENGE OF ALL OUR NEEDS. IS THERE ANY UPDATE SINCE LAST WEEK OR WORKING WITH THE STATE? CORRECT NOW? OKAY 33 I BELIEVE, FULL TIMERS THAT ARE SEEKING WAIVERS FOR THEIR RETIREMENT SO THEY CAN GO OVER TO $35 AN HOUR. SO DID WE HAVE A WAIVER DURING COVID AND WE LOST IT. WHAT HAPPENED? THEY DID. I BELIEVE THE STATE ALLOWED A WAIVER, BUT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOW THEY'RE STILL GIVING WAY. BUT YOU JUST GOT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. OKAY.YEAH. OKAY. GO AHEAD GEORGE. YES, SIR. HOW DO YOU SEE WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH CHALLENGES. BUT WHAT IS THE TREND? I MEAN, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO HANDLE THE SAME ISSUE? WELL FREE PROBABLY PARKLAND SHOOTING IN 2017, 2018, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT FOCUS ON OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICE, WHICH STILL EXISTS TODAY. BUT THE SROS PERFORM OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE THEY'RE UNIFORM AND THEY'RE ARMED. BUT THEY ALSO DO A LOT OF COUNSELING OR WORKING WITH KIDS TO GET THEM ON THE RIGHT PATH. SINCE THE PARKLAND SHOOTING AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE JUST HAD ONE RECENTLY IN GEORGI.
THE SHIFT HAS BEEN TO GET MORE SECURITY MINDED. THAT'S WHY WE WERE PROACTIVE. THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND I, WITH PARKLAND HAPPENED. THAT'S WHEN WE SAID WE'VE GOT TO GET ARMED PEOPLE IN EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO INSTEAD OF FOCUSING MORE ON WORKING WITH PROBLEM KIDS AND WHATNOT, YOU'LL FIND A SINGLE POINT OF ENTRY. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE OUR KIDDOS.
AT NEARLY ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, MONITORING PEOPLE OR CHECKING PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN. SO IT'S STRICTLY A SECURITY. THAT IS CORRECT POSITION, BUT I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. AND MAYBE A LITTLE INSIGHT AND RESEARCH, ARE THERE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S PRIVATIZED, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN OF, OF MAYBE HAPPENING IN SOME PART OF THE COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST COUNTIES TO UTILIZE THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW, WHICH HAS THAT JOB TITLE OF SPECIAL PATROL OFFICER IN IT, AND SINCE THEN THERE ARE MULTIPLE COUNTIES NOW THAT HAVE DONE THIS, TAKEN THE SAME APPROACH THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE THE SPO MODEL ALLOWS US TO BRING RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMBERS IN WHERE YOU'RE JUST PAYING THEM STRICTLY THE HOURLY RATE, YOU'RE NOT PAYING THEM BENEFITS, THEY'RE NOT FULL TIME PEOPLE, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT WAS THE MORE COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GO, AS YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY, THEY PAID FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF 50% SHARE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. NOW, THE 100% OF THE SHARE IS ON THE SCHOOL.
SO WE'VE SEEN A MISSION CREEP. OH, IT'S INCREDIBLE, YOU KNOW, BUT BUT AGAIN, TIMES ARE CHANGING. OH, YEAH. WE ARE PERFORMING SECURITY FUNCTIONS AT EVENTS THAT, IF YOU ASK ME, 35 YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED, I NEVER BE DOING THESE. AND BELIEVE ME, THIS IS NOT YOUR VOLITION. THIS IS A CREATURE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. MENTAL HEALTH. THE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS ARE JUST EXPLODING. I CAN BLAME YOU FOR A LOT OF THINGS, BUT NOT THIS. AS FAR AS GROWTH, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEED ALL OVER IS. AND I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO DO IT? YOU COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE SECRET SERVICE SORT OF HIRED OTHER PEOPLE TO FILL A LOT OF THINGS. I MEAN, YOU GO TO THE NEW YORK STATE FAIR, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF STATE POLICE ON THE GROUNDS, BUT EVERYONE CHECKING THEY DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB. OBVIOUSLY, WITH SOME OF THE INCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED AT THE FAIR. BUT THE PEOPLE CHECKING BAGS, THAT WAS A PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY GOING THROUGH METAL DETECTORS. YOU GO TO ANY OF THE CONCERT VENUES, LIKE WHETHER IT'S THE AMPHITHEATER AT SYRACUSE OR THE ONE IN SARATOGA, THERE'S LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENT THERE, BUT THE ONES DOING THE BAG CHECKS AND ALL THAT, THOSE ARE PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANIES.
BUT WE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S FLAWS BECAUSE THERE WERE WEAPONS THAT GOT INTO THE STATE, STATE FAIRGROUNDS. THERE WERE STABBINGS, SO NOTHING IS FOOLPROOF. NO, NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS. SO, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING YOU HEAR ON THAT? I'D BE ABSOLUTELY. I'D BE OPEN TO HEARING. OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS. YEAH GO AHEAD. KEITH. SURE. IF YOU TALK ABOUT, THE FINANCE END OF IT, OF A FEW DOLLARS EXTRA FOR THE COUNTY WHEN AN OFFICER GOES IN, WE ALSO HAVE TO BUY AHEAD OF TIME. THEIR THEIR, THEIR UNIFORM, SO TO SPEAK, THEIR PROTECTION, ETC. CORRECT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT. AND A LOT OF THEM WERE COVERED IN VARIOUS CONTRACTS.
BUT BUT OBVIOUSLY THE DETAILS THAT WE HAVE ON THAT ARE COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING, UNION STATION, FAMILY COURT ROOM LOCATIONS LIKE THAT. THOSE, THOSE COSTS WERE BORNE BY US IN THE BEGINNING.
AND AGAIN, YOU BUY AN OFFICER A DUTY BELT UNLESS HE PUTS A LOT OF WEIGHT ON, IT'S THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SAME THING. UNIFORMS. WE DON'T REISSUE UNIFORMS UNTIL THE OTHER ONES ARE WORN OUT. SO? SO YEAR TO YEAR LOW IN A SCHOOL. SAY, PICK ON REMSEN. HAD A YEAR TO YEAR.
ARE YOU FINDING THAT IT'S THE LONGEVITY. IT'S NORMALLY THE SAME PERSON IN THERE. WE TRY TO HAVE PEOPLE WORK. BUT AGAIN SCHEDULING AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO PICK THE SCHOOLS
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THAT ARE FUNDED IN THAT AREA, THAT WORK IN THAT AREA. GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE. ONE OF THE SPOTS THAT WORKS IN REMSEN IS A RETIRED TROOPER OUT OF THE REMSEN BARRACKS. SO THEY KNOW THAT THAT AREA, A LOT OF THE WE DO THE TEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THE UTICA CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT, MOST OF THEM ARE ANY OF THE RETIRED UTICA POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE WORKING FOR US. THEY'LL BE ON THAT DETAIL. SO WE TRY TO PUT PEOPLE WHERE WHERE THEY'RE MOST COMFORTABLE AND MOST JUST WONDERING, MOVING FORWARD. IT'S NOT BIG MONEY, BUT IT IS MONEY OF A SCHOOL TO BEGIN IN A YEAR. HERE'S YOUR ANNUAL CONTRACT AND THAT THERE'S AN UPFRONT COST ADDED ON TO THAT TO OFFSET SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT. JUST A CONSIDERATION IN THAT SECOND QUESTION IS, I KNOW YOU'RE INVOLVED A LOT IN THE STATE ASSOCIATION. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION WITH SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS TO PUSH THAT COST OVER ONTO THE STATE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT TO FUND SECURITY? THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE NETHERLANDS. YES YEAH. SO I SAY THAT SECURITY SECURITY IS NOT EDIBLE, RIGHT? RIGHT DO YOU IS THERE ANY DO YOU SEE ANY RENEWED EFFORT, ESPECIALLY WITH TO CONTINUE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY ALL WANT MORE. AND SOME OF THE SMALLER DISTRICTS CAN'T AFFORD THEM. THEY ALL WANT MORE SECURITY, SO TO YOUR POINT, IT'S ONLY GOTTEN BETTER, I MEAN, WE TYPICALLY THIS SECURITY AT LIKE YOUR FOOTBALL, RIGHT? FOR YOUR, YOU KNOW, BIG BASKETBALL GAME IN THE SEASON. LITERALLY. WE'RE DOING SECURITY AT NEARLY ALL SPORTING EVENTS NOW BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN DOCUMENTED ISSUES AND ARE AFRAID. PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO GO ANYWHERE JUST SEEING IT. AS A SCHOOL. WE MOVED FROM THAT INITIAL OF 50 OVER 50 TO NOW THAT 100% GOING ON THE SCHOOLS. I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD BE SCREAMING LOUD TO TRY TO GET STATE AID. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN THE FBI TO MEET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS REAL SOON. THE BIG PUSH IS THREAT ASSESSMENT NOW, BECAUSE MENTAL HEALTH, THERE'S SO MANY. SCHOOLS AROUND THE COUNTRY. WHENEVER SOMEONE COMES ON THE RADAR AS A POTENTIAL CONCERN, THEY'RE LOOKING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DO THREAT ASSESSMENTS. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AND SO ON BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO GET WRONG, BECAUSE IF YOU GET IT WRONG. YEAH. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHERIFF, JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION. AND I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU'VE STATED THIS BEFORE AND THE EXPLANATION, BUT IT'S GOOD TO HEAR AGAIN FOR THE SPOTS THAT ARE WORKING, ESPECIALLY IN THE SCHOOL, WHEN THERE'S NO SCHOOL IN SESSION DURING SOME. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THOSE BODIES? THERE'S SO MANY OTHER DETAILS GOING ON BETWEEN THIS BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION IN THIS BUILDING, LIKE I SAID, THE TORNADO, I MEAN, THEY WERE CRITICAL PARTS OF THE SERVICE WE WERE DOING AS FAR AS SECURITY SERVICES, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF OUR SPOTS THAT JUST DON'T WANT TO WORK WHEN THERE'S TIME OFF. YOU KNOW, THEY WANT THE TIME OFF. SHE'S DONE THEIR CAREER.THIS IS ROUND TWO FOR THEM. SO WE DO HAVE THOSE THAT THAT ARE LIMITED BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T WANT TO WORK 60 HOURS AND WE DON'T WANT A PAY PERIOD AS A RETIREE. SO THEY'RE NOT JUST HANGING OUT IN EMPTY SCHOOL. THEY'RE NOT AT ALL OKAY. NOT AT ALL. I KNEW THAT I JUST NEEDS TO BE HEARD, I THINK, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF ON ON THIS RESOLUTION? AGAIN, IT'S 0671. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY OPPOSING THAT DOES PASS EMERGENCY SERVICES. OH 706 APPROVAL OF AN INSTALLMENT PAYMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS CREDIT COMPANY, LLC, QUESTIONS WENT THROUGH COMMITTEE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RADIO INTEROPERABILITY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF PUBLIC SAFETY MEETINGS. THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR ED PERTAINING TO THIS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS ISN'T A QUESTION. I GUESS IT'S SEVERAL STATEMENTS FOR ME. I GO BACK, I PREDATE ED, WHEN KEVIN WAS RUNNING NINE, 911 WHEN FRED WAS THERE AND WE KNEW WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING WITH RADAR RADIO INTEROPERABILITY, THERE WAS THREE PIECE APPS WE CONVERTED TO ONE, AS MOST OF US DO KNOW THAT WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO COST US A LOT. WELL, IT COST US QUITE A BIT, IT HASN'T DELIVERED THE GUARANTEES AND THE GUARANTEE WAS NEVER IT'D BE 100% FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. THAT'S THAT WAS NEVER A PROMISE. AND THERE WAS AN EXPECTATION THAT COULDN'T BE MET. BUT WE WERE EXPECTING CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS. WE STILL DON'T HAVE, IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTY, I GUESS THE IMPROVEMENT THAT WE HAD HOPED FOR. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'RE GOING WITH THE UPDATED
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PHONES THAT PRETTY MUCH WITHOUT INCREASING ADDITIONAL TOWERS, BECAUSE THAT WAS A CORRECT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, IS THIS IS A THE NEWEST VERSION AND I REFERRED TO PREVIOUSLY. IT'S BEEN CALLED THE NEXT GENERATION, OF PORTABLE RADIOS, NOT PHONES. AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT USES CELLULAR TECHNOLOGY TO INCREASE THE RANGE OF, OF REGULAR RADIO, WHERE A RADIO WAVE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET INTO A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. IT UTILIZES CELL TOWERS AND UTILIZES THAT CELL, TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE INSTEAD OF WAITING. WHEN DO YOU THINK THE RADIOS WILL BE HANDED OUT? TO EVERY DEPARTMENT, THE TYPEKIT, LIKE I MENTIONED IN TH, IN THE ACTUALLY AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING, I'M HOPING BY THE END OF THE YEAR, AFTER LAST MONTH, WE PUT IN OUR FIRST PURCHASE ORDER AND WE RECEIVED 85 RADIOS OF THE 85 RADIOS THAT WE ORDERED IN THE 23 POLICE RADIOS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE 85 RADIOS IN HAND THAT WE'RE PROGRAMING RIGHT NOW, IF THIS PASSES TODAY, WE WILL IMMEDIATELY ACTUALLY PUT THIS PURCHASE ORDER IN FOR THIS BATCH OF RADIOS AND MOTOROLA HAD TOLD US WE WERE GOING THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS, THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PUT AT THE HEAD OF THE LIST BASED ON OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM, BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF COVERAGE THAT WE FOUND WITH THE BUILD OUT OF THE LAST FOUR TOWERS. SO MY HOPE IS BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY WILL ALL BE IN, AND IF NOT OUT BY THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WITHIN THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.SO REALLY IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON AVAILABILITY RIGHT NOW. WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD SENSE WHEN THE RADIOS ARE OUT WHERE YOU CAN DO TESTING AND THEN REPORT BACK TO US LIKE THE AUGUSTUS, THE CAMDEN'S AND THE OTTER LAKE? BECAUSE WE HAD OUR DEMO RADIOS OUT THERE, WE HAD SIX DEMO RADIOS OUT THERE, AND EVERY SINGLE AGENCY THAT WE ISSUED A DEMO RADIO TO HAD POSITIVE FEEDBACK, 100% POSITIVE FEEDBACK. NOT ONLY DID IT INCREASE IN-BUILDING COVERAGE, WHICH WAS THE MAIN THING IN MY BOOK FOR THIS, BUT THE ON STREET COVERAGE ALSO INCREASED DRAMATICALLY. AND NOT ONLY DID IT INCREASE BECAUSE IT WAS SWITCHING OVER TO THE CELLULAR TECHNOLOGY, WE WERE BEING TOLD THAT THE RADIO WAS ACTUALLY STAYING ON OUR TECHNOLOGY LAND MOBILE RADIO, WHICH IS THE RADIO WAVES TECHNOLOGY, AND THEY WERE GETTING COVERAGE THAT WAY THAT THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY GETTING COVERAGE, THAT THEY. THANK YOU. SO RIGHT NOW VERY GOOD FEEDBACK.
GO AHEAD STEVE. SO ARE WE DONE WITH POWER CENTER OR DID WE BUILT ON THE POWER CENTER RIGHT NOW? MY PLAN WOULD BE BEING DONE WITH TOWERS. UNLESS SOMETHING COMES UP THAT WE REALLY, REALLY SEE A NEED. I SEE THIS AS BEING THE WAY TO GO FORWARD. A QUICK EXPLANATION ON THAT. MY INTERPRETATION THIS IS PERSONAL. WHEN I WAS MAKING THIS DECISION FOR THESE RADIOS, AND I'LL GO BACK TO MY EXPLANATION ABOUT RISKING FALLS IN VIENNA. WE WANTED TO IMPROVE THE COVERAGE AND RISK OF FALLS IF WE BUILT A TOWER, AND RISKING FALLS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION, THE ONLY PLACE THAT THAT IS GOING TO ASSESS THEIR RISK AND FALL, IT DOESN'T GIVE US ANY GUARANTEES OF IN-BUILDING COVERAGE EITHER, BECAUSE WITH THIS RADIO SYSTEM, THERE'S NEVER A GUARANTEE FOR IN-BUILDING COVERAGE. SO OUR MONEY IS BETTER SPENT WITH THESE RADIOS THAT WE KNOW WILL INCREASE OUR IN-BUILDING COVERAGE. SO FOR ME, IT'S A BETTER RESULT FOR YOUR MONEY. GOING FORWARD, LIKE I SAID, IF THERE WERE TO BE ANYTHING AND AGAIN, WITH TECHNOLOGY THAT'S, CONTINUING TO GROW, ESPECIALLY IN THIS FIELD, IF THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND WE WERE TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THESE PORTABLES ARE ALSO ALL INTEROPERABLE. SO THESE NEW PORTABLES THAT WE'RE BUYING CAN BE UTILIZED WITH THE PORTABLES THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE, OKAY, THEY'RE NOT USEFUL FOR US ANYMORE. AND WE'RE GOING TO THIS NEW ONE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE AFFORDABLE FLOW OUT THERE THAT ALLOWS. GO AHEAD COLIN. WE HAD THIS TECHNOLOGY TEN YEARS AGO, BUT WE NEED TO BUILD THE TOWERS WHERE WE GO, IT'S HARD TO SAY BECAUSE AGAIN, TEN YEARS AGO, IT WAS ALSO AFFECTED BY WHERE THE CELLULAR TOWERS WERE ALSO. SO THE DEMO UNITS THAT WE HAD OUT THERE ACTUALLY WERE VERY DEPENDENT ON THE CELLULAR TOWERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CELL COMPANIES RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHAT GAVE US THAT COVERAGE. AND THE ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY IS THE CELL COMPANIES CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT MORE CELL TOWERS AT THEIR EXPENSE INSTEAD OF OUR EXPENSE. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S ANOTHER GOOD THING. THE WAY I SEE IT, GOING INTO MORE CELL TOWERS THAT ARE SOLD, THE MORE COVERAGE WE ACTUALLY GET ON OUR RADIO SYSTEMS. TIM, YOU SAID, IT'S VERY SECURITY ISSUES WHEN IT GOES OVER TO THE CELLULAR RADIO OVER THE. NO, NO, IT'S THE SAME THING. WE ALL OF THE SAME FUNCTIONS THAT WE HAVE AT THE LMR RADIO, WE HAVE WITH THE CELLULAR RADIO, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHUT IT OFF REMOTELY. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, PROGRAM IN THE VARIOUS FREQUENCIES AND ESPECIALLY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THAT'S REALLY WHY THERE IS A
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DIFFERENCE AND WHY WE'RE SEEING A DIFFERENCE IN THE DELIVERY OF THE RADIOS. ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT RADIOS HAVE A, MY MIND JUST WON'T LIKE ENOUGH. BLUE BUTTON. YEAH. WELL IT'S. NO, IT'S THE ENCRYPTION. THAT'S THE WAY IN MY MIND WHEN IT'S AN ENCRYPTION AND IT'S ACTUALLY AN ADDITIONAL COST. BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT SCRAMBLES THE DIGITAL SIGNAL SO IT DOESN'T ALLOW SOMEBODY WHO, WHO GOES OUT AND BUYS A SPECIFIC, SCANNER TO PROGRAM THAT VARIOUS FREQUENCY OR THAT VARIOUS CHANNEL IN THERE, THINGS LIKE NARCOTICS UNIT, SPECIAL RESPONSE TEAMS, THEY USE SPECIFIC CHANNELS THAT ARE ENCRYPTED SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, DOING A SEARCH WARRANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO HIT A HOUSE, THE BAD GUYS AREN'T LISTENING ON THAT. ON THE RADIO TO KNOW WHEN IT'S COMING. AND WHEN I SAW, GEEZ, COULD YOU JUST SHOW US THE POSITION THEY HAVE TO HOLD THE RADIO IN ONE WAY. MY PREDECESSOR HERE, HE'LL BE HAPPY TO DEMONSTRATE. KEVIN, DO THAT. WOW GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE EVENTUALLY, WHEN THE RADIOS ARE OUT AND WE'RE GETTING INTO THE BEGINNING PART OF 2025, MAYBE A, A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION OF HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT SO FAR. KIND OF KIND OF LOST TRACK WITH THE TWO SETS OF RADIO PURCHASES. THE TOWERS AND THE TOWERS AND RADIOS, JUST RADIO PURCHASES. I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK SUMMARY. I APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. AND THIS IS NOT A JUDGMENT TO ANYBODY. WE GET THESE FOR THE VEHICLES AT COLGATE. SAME THING RUNS OFF CELLULAR. THIS IS A $120 A PIECE. WHAT MAKES THIS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE BUYING FOR? HOW MUCH ARE THE NEW ONES RIGHT 66. WELL IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU GET IN THE FIRE. ABOUT 58 POLICE ARE ABOUT 60, BUT THESE ARE 100 AND IT RUNS OFF CELLULAR. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND A DEAD SPOT YET. THE ONLY THING I WOULD WONDER IS, IS HOW MANY DIFFERENT CHANNELS DO YOU HAVE? THE ABILITY? IS THERE ENCRYPTION? IS THERE TOP GROUPS? ARE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE 15 OF THEM? THAT'S WHAT I'M AND THERE IS ONE GROUP THAT TRANSPORTATION HAS, 75 OF THEM IN ONE GROUP. THERE HASN'T BEEN A DEAD SPOT YET. RIGHT. AND THAT'S GOOD NEWS ACTUALLY FOR OUR RADIOS. REGARDING THE CELLULAR, I GUESS IN TERMS OF THE COST DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, I SEE THE QUESTION OF MYSELF. I SAID, IF I CAN GO OUT AND BUY THE LATEST AND GREATEST NEW IPHONE AT 14 OR $1500, EVEN, UTILIZE MY CELLULAR TECHNOLOGY AND IT GIVES ME THE ABILITY TO TAKE PICTURES AND GET APPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WHY IS THIS DIFFERENT? AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME WAS IT'S THE FREQUENCIES HAVE TO BE BUILT IN. IT'S THE TOP GROUPS THAT CAN BE BUILT IN AND IT'S ACTUALLY THE SECURITY THAT'S BUILT INTO THESE RADIOS.AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S THE INDUSTRY. THEY DO KIND OF HAVE YOU IN TERMS OF, FIRST RESPONDER TYPE OF RADIO, THE RUGGEDNESS, THE GUARANTEES THAT THEY DO GIVE YOU WITH THAT. THAT'S WHAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND LIKE I SAID, THAT BEING PROBABLY MORE LIKE A WALKIE TALKIE THAN IT'S ONE PARTICULAR CHANNEL THAT POTENTIALLY IS OPEN. OTHER PEOPLE ACTUALLY COULD GET YOUR FREQUENCY, LISTEN TO IT ON A SCANNER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S THOSE SAFEGUARDS THAT THEY.
YEAH. SO SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THOSE COSTS UNFORTUNATELY ARE BORN AND BUILT INTO THE RADIO SYSTEM, IT'S ONE THING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ACTUALLY CHANGE UP FROM A FEDERAL LEVEL, KNOWING THAT RIGHT NOW. I SAID PREVIOUSLY, THERE'S ONLY TWO COMPANIES, MOTOROLA AND HARRIS, THAT EVEN OFFER THIS CELLULAR TECHNOLOGY IN A PORTABLE RADIO. THEY BASICALLY HAVE US IN A CORNER OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND UTILIZE, AND THE PRICE CAN BE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THEY WANT IT TO BE RIGHT NOW. AND THIS IS A NECESSITY IN THE FIRST RESPONDERS WILL BE NICE TO SEE A BIG REGULATORY TYPE OF GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY COME IN AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE. YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE KNOW WE NEED, LET'S BE ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT COME ON. THE MARKET. SO WE ALL SET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S CALL THE VOTE. WE'RE VOTING ON 0706. EMERGENCY.
EMERGENCY SERVICES. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE OPPOSED. THAT CARRIES 0566 PUBLIC WORKS APPROVAL OF CHANGE. ORDER NUMBER FOUR TO AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND FISHER ASSOCIATES. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET? NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED ALL RIGHT. OH 748 APPROVAL OF A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY AND NEXTERA PROPERTY INVESTMENTS.
QUESTIONS COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.
OPPOSED THAT CARRIES AND 060 FOR WATER POLLUTION. APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONEIDA COUNTY THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENT OF WATER QUALITY, WATER POLLUTION CONTROL
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AND CSX TRANSPORTATION INCORPORATED. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCKET? GO AHEAD. GEORGE JUST EXPLAIN THAT THE WAY I READ IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT I KNOW WHO'S HERE.CSX IS. SO WHO'S PAYING WHO? YOU'RE DOING AN ENGINEERING CONTRACT IN ORDER TO GET ACCESS TO THE BARNS AT PUMPING STATION. AND IF YOU RECALL, THE BRIDGE FROM ORISKANY BOULEVARD TO GET OVER THE TRACKS THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF COMMISSION SEVERAL YEARS AGO. SO WE NEED A PERMANENT ACCESS. SO THE ONLY ROUTE THAT CSX IS GIVING US IS OVER BY SCOOBY RENDERING. THERE'S A THERE'S A PRIVATE GRADE CROSSING THERE. NOW IT'S NOT SAFE FOR EVERYBODY TO BE USING. SO WE'VE REQUESTED AN ALTERNATIVE ACCESS TO GET INTO THE PUMPING STATION. WE'VE LOOKED AT MULTIPLE ROUTES.
THIS IS WHAT CSX IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO DO IS TO REPLACE THAT GRADE CROSSING. THE DEAL WITH CSX IS THEY DO ALL THE ENGINEERING. THEY DO ALL THE CONSTRUCTION. WE PAY THE BILL.
SO WE'RE WE WILL HAVE A CONTRACT WITH CSX TO DO THE ENGINEERING. THEN THERE'LL BE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT WITH CSX TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS IS THE FIRST PIECE OF IT, I GUESS JUST BEGS THE QUESTION. SO THE NEXT TIME THEIR BRIDGES CAUSE FLOODING BECAUSE OF THE DEBRIS, DO WE BACK CHARGE THEM? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THEY'VE CAUSED A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, COST TO THE COUNTIES AND THE TOWNS. THEY HAVE TO REACT TO IT. SO, MADAM ATTORNEY, WELL, SHE'S NOT EVEN LISTENING. I'LL GO. NO, I'M JUST SAYING, TAKE NOTE OF THIS, BECAUSE EVERY TIME THAT THAT WE ARE HARMED, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S OUTRAGEOUS THAT THEY WOULD BE PASSING THAT ON. THAT'S JUST THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IN THIS CASE, THEY HAVE THE MONOPOLY. WE'VE GOT NO CHOICE. YEP. WE'LL DO IT WITH RELUCTANCE. GEORGE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS STATEMENTS. THIS DOCKET 0604. IT'S CALLED THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED THAT'S IT. RIGHT.
MIKE. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO ALL IN FAVOR?
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